37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 470882 |
Time | |
Date | 200004 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sna.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1560 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 470882 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 1000 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 470760 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On vectors off sxc into sna, descending from 6000 ft MSL to 5000 ft MSL at 250 KTS. Socal asked what our airspeed was. Captain responded '250 KTS.' socal responded back 'below class B reduce speed to 200 KTS.' I immediately reduced power to near idle and began slowing aircraft. Situational/positional awareness would have prevented this occurrence.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR CREW EXCEEDS MAX SPD BELOW THE CLASS B AIRSPACE NEAR SNA, CA.
Narrative: ON VECTORS OFF SXC INTO SNA, DSNDING FROM 6000 FT MSL TO 5000 FT MSL AT 250 KTS. SOCAL ASKED WHAT OUR AIRSPD WAS. CAPT RESPONDED '250 KTS.' SOCAL RESPONDED BACK 'BELOW CLASS B REDUCE SPD TO 200 KTS.' I IMMEDIATELY REDUCED PWR TO NEAR IDLE AND BEGAN SLOWING ACFT. SITUATIONAL/POSITIONAL AWARENESS WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS OCCURRENCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.