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Attributes | |
ACN | 472370 |
Time | |
Date | 200005 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ahn.airport |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc tower : ahn.tower |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : circling approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ahn.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 472370 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed missed approach flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Center turned us (aircraft X) over to the tower just outside the FAF. When we checked on, the tower asked us to report bulldog. I saw the ADF needle swing and said we are at bulldog now. Center had cleared us for the runway 27 low approach, circle to land runway 9. We continued the approach and at the airport boundary we went missed approach and reported it. The tower controller said we had not reported bulldog and another aircraft (aircraft Y) had to turn to avoid us. The tower controller said he didn't understand we were at bulldog and since he didn't acknowledge the report, the report was not valid. He then told us to proceed VFR to grd. We asked for our filed altitude and reminded him we were IFR. He then gave us our filed altitude of 4000 ft and turned us over to ZTL. I talked to the controller when on the ground in greenville, sc, and he seemed to think we should have reported bulldog again and that we were incorrect to continue the approach that center had cleared us for. If he is correct and we don't continue the approach, where do we go? Missed approach? Hold? What if we had actually lost radio capability? I think he should have protected the approach airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AHN CTLR CHALLENGES PA28 PLT'S RPTING PROC WHEN CONDUCTING AN IFR APCH.
Narrative: CTR TURNED US (ACFT X) OVER TO THE TWR JUST OUTSIDE THE FAF. WHEN WE CHKED ON, THE TWR ASKED US TO RPT BULLDOG. I SAW THE ADF NEEDLE SWING AND SAID WE ARE AT BULLDOG NOW. CTR HAD CLRED US FOR THE RWY 27 LOW APCH, CIRCLE TO LAND RWY 9. WE CONTINUED THE APCH AND AT THE ARPT BOUNDARY WE WENT MISSED APCH AND RPTED IT. THE TWR CTLR SAID WE HAD NOT RPTED BULLDOG AND ANOTHER ACFT (ACFT Y) HAD TO TURN TO AVOID US. THE TWR CTLR SAID HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WE WERE AT BULLDOG AND SINCE HE DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE THE RPT, THE RPT WAS NOT VALID. HE THEN TOLD US TO PROCEED VFR TO GRD. WE ASKED FOR OUR FILED ALT AND REMINDED HIM WE WERE IFR. HE THEN GAVE US OUR FILED ALT OF 4000 FT AND TURNED US OVER TO ZTL. I TALKED TO THE CTLR WHEN ON THE GND IN GREENVILLE, SC, AND HE SEEMED TO THINK WE SHOULD HAVE RPTED BULLDOG AGAIN AND THAT WE WERE INCORRECT TO CONTINUE THE APCH THAT CTR HAD CLRED US FOR. IF HE IS CORRECT AND WE DON'T CONTINUE THE APCH, WHERE DO WE GO? MISSED APCH? HOLD? WHAT IF WE HAD ACTUALLY LOST RADIO CAPABILITY? I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE PROTECTED THE APCH AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.