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B727 crew at rdu taxi to a high power runup area and, during the runup, caused a problem to aircraft nearby.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 472736 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200005 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : rdu.airport |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked ground : preflight ground : maintenance |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : rdu.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Jetstream 32 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| ASRS Report | 472736 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ground encounters other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other controllerb other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : anomaly accepted other |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Aircraft Airport ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Air carrier X called to taxi to high power runup area from the cargo ramp. I asked if he could make a 180 degree turn on the ramp to exit out at taxiway J1. He said that they could do that. I continued to work the other traffic I had and got back to air carrier X when I could. I then taxied air carrier X to taxiway G and taxiway H area and informed him that there was a JS32 there and to have his tail facing appropriately. Some time later, the B727 appeared to have pwred up all 3 engines and moved the twin and may have caused some damage to a helicopter. I tried to get the aircraft to power down but he could not hear me. One of the JS32's moved to get air carrier X's attention and after that the B727 engines pwred down to where the individual could then hear me. I told him not to do his runup facing in that direction and that he blew one aircraft around and that they (air carrier X) could expect some phone calls. What I think should be done is to have the people that are doing the runups inform ground control before they start and get permission first.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 CREW AT RDU TAXI TO A HIGH PWR RUNUP AREA AND, DURING THE RUNUP, CAUSED A PROB TO ACFT NEARBY.
Narrative: ACR X CALLED TO TAXI TO HIGH PWR RUNUP AREA FROM THE CARGO RAMP. I ASKED IF HE COULD MAKE A 180 DEG TURN ON THE RAMP TO EXIT OUT AT TXWY J1. HE SAID THAT THEY COULD DO THAT. I CONTINUED TO WORK THE OTHER TFC I HAD AND GOT BACK TO ACR X WHEN I COULD. I THEN TAXIED ACR X TO TXWY G AND TXWY H AREA AND INFORMED HIM THAT THERE WAS A JS32 THERE AND TO HAVE HIS TAIL FACING APPROPRIATELY. SOME TIME LATER, THE B727 APPEARED TO HAVE PWRED UP ALL 3 ENGS AND MOVED THE TWIN AND MAY HAVE CAUSED SOME DAMAGE TO A HELI. I TRIED TO GET THE ACFT TO PWR DOWN BUT HE COULD NOT HEAR ME. ONE OF THE JS32'S MOVED TO GET ACR X'S ATTN AND AFTER THAT THE B727 ENGS PWRED DOWN TO WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL COULD THEN HEAR ME. I TOLD HIM NOT TO DO HIS RUNUP FACING IN THAT DIRECTION AND THAT HE BLEW ONE ACFT AROUND AND THAT THEY (ACR X) COULD EXPECT SOME PHONE CALLS. WHAT I THINK SHOULD BE DONE IS TO HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE RUNUPS INFORM GND CTL BEFORE THEY START AND GET PERMISSION FIRST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.