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Attributes | |
ACN | 473271 |
Time | |
Date | 200005 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dvt.airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 28 flight time total : 390 flight time type : 195 |
ASRS Report | 473271 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | other personnel |
Qualification | other |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : fss.2 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
By the time I had tied down the aircraft after the flight, filled out the paperwork, gathered my gear, walked to the FBO and called FSS, it was more than 30 mins past my ETA. FSS advised search and rescue had been started with a call to tower to close the flight plan (VFR). FSS then advised I should enter as ETA on flight plan form estimated time en route plus time to do postflt chores. FSS then advised they were recording 'I had called' as procedure or for enforcement, I don't know. Aim does not say to include 'administrative' time in ETA block of flight plan. If this is true, this needs to be in the aim. Problem can be avoided by padding ETA time, updating aim, carrying a cell phone?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT PLAN WAS NOT CLOSED WITHIN 30 MINS OF ETA. SEARCH WAS STARTED.
Narrative: BY THE TIME I HAD TIED DOWN THE ACFT AFTER THE FLT, FILLED OUT THE PAPERWORK, GATHERED MY GEAR, WALKED TO THE FBO AND CALLED FSS, IT WAS MORE THAN 30 MINS PAST MY ETA. FSS ADVISED SEARCH AND RESCUE HAD BEEN STARTED WITH A CALL TO TWR TO CLOSE THE FLT PLAN (VFR). FSS THEN ADVISED I SHOULD ENTER AS ETA ON FLT PLAN FORM ESTIMATED TIME ENRTE PLUS TIME TO DO POSTFLT CHORES. FSS THEN ADVISED THEY WERE RECORDING 'I HAD CALLED' AS PROC OR FOR ENFORCEMENT, I DON'T KNOW. AIM DOES NOT SAY TO INCLUDE 'ADMINISTRATIVE' TIME IN ETA BLOCK OF FLT PLAN. IF THIS IS TRUE, THIS NEEDS TO BE IN THE AIM. PROB CAN BE AVOIDED BY PADDING ETA TIME, UPDATING AIM, CARRYING A CELL PHONE?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.