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Attributes | |
ACN | 474003 |
Time | |
Date | 200005 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 12 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 747003 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical maintenance problem : non compliance with mel non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Factors | |
Maintenance | contributing factor : schedule pressure performance deficiency : repair performance deficiency : fault isolation performance deficiency : testing |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Maintenance Human Performance Chart Or Publication Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Maintenance Human Performance |
Narrative:
En route, we received a flaps fail message. Flap at zero degrees. Previously we were informed that the message had been deferred and if received, it should be disregarded if flaps still operated. We continued to lga and when we tried to use the flaps they were inoperative. We treated it as a true flap failure, ran the appropriate checklist and charts, informed all who were concerned and landed without incident. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated the deferral of the trailing edge flap position indication system and flap final warning did not appear correct but having no maintenance manual or MEL no check could be made.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CL65 WAS DISPATCHED IN NON COMPLIANCE WITH THE TRAILING EDGE FLAP POS INDICATOR DEFERRED IN CONFLICT WITH THE MEL.
Narrative: ENRTE, WE RECEIVED A FLAPS FAIL MESSAGE. FLAP AT ZERO DEGS. PREVIOUSLY WE WERE INFORMED THAT THE MESSAGE HAD BEEN DEFERRED AND IF RECEIVED, IT SHOULD BE DISREGARDED IF FLAPS STILL OPERATED. WE CONTINUED TO LGA AND WHEN WE TRIED TO USE THE FLAPS THEY WERE INOP. WE TREATED IT AS A TRUE FLAP FAILURE, RAN THE APPROPRIATE CHKLIST AND CHARTS, INFORMED ALL WHO WERE CONCERNED AND LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED THE DEFERRAL OF THE TRAILING EDGE FLAP POS INDICATION SYS AND FLAP FINAL WARNING DID NOT APPEAR CORRECT BUT HAVING NO MAINT MANUAL OR MEL NO CHK COULD BE MADE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.