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Attributes | |
ACN | 475046 |
Time | |
Date | 200006 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den.airport |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d01.tracon tower : den.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern arrival : on vectors departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 10400 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 475046 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 450 |
ASRS Report | 475937 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical maintenance problem : improper maintenance non adherence : company policies other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : cab #5 |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : diverted to another airport flight crew : landed in emergency condition other |
Consequence | other other other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Cabin Crew Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Maintenance Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Aircraft had the #3 high/low stage pressure valve and pressure regulator replaced. A static run-up was done and the valve checked fine. Taxi for takeoff uneventful. First officer was PF. Takeoff uneventful until 200-300 ft AGL. We received a chime from the cabin. We were told there was smoke in the cabin. Packs were ok, engines ok, no overheating. Continued climb, leveled off at 9000 ft MSL and told ATC we were coming back in to land but that we needed to assess the situation. I sent so back to check things out. He came back and said that there was smoke, it smelled electrical, but it appeared to be dissipating. We decided to return to den and land. We were under maximum landing weight. At this point we were downwind to runway 16 east of the airport. We received another chime from the cabin and were told that the ceiling panels 'were turning black.' we immediately made a left turn and headed for runway 26 while alerting ATC and requesting fire equipment. At 500 ft with the aircraft stabilized and checklists done, I had the so ask flight attendant #1 if we needed to evacuate/evacuation. She said no. Now we were really confused. Is the airplane on fire or what? We landed, got off the runway and stopped the airplane. I had the flight attendant come up and asked what was going on. She said that there did not appear to be any fire and the smoke was dissipating. I asked the flight attendant who reported 'the ceiling panels turning black' to come to the cockpit. She said that at the time, the ceiling panels did appear to be getting dark and still looked a little dark to her. I instructed the flight attendant to stay in the aisle (in the area of concern) with a fire extinguisher. I told the so to call company and get a gate immediately and to tell them what was going on. I told ATC that we were taxiing back to the gate but that I wanted the fire trucks to follow us. Parking uneventful but they were unprepared for our arrival. The agents and supervisor claimed they knew nothing about our arrival. Passenger disembarked. Went back and looked at the ceiling panels and they looked normal. Flight duty manager called me on the jetway phone and I explained the events to him. He asked me why I didn't declare an emergency. If asked by ATC, I would have done so, but at the time, I felt that my airplane was on fire and my only thought was to get it on the ground. I did not say those words (declare an emergency) but I thought my message was conveyed by requesting the fire trucks and landing immediately. This flight and airplane had already experienced 2 delays due to mechanical problems. One required that we taxi back to the gate. The flight attendant that reported the 'ceiling panels turning black' had recently been to recurrent training and had seen the video of the cabin being on fire. I believe she was a little 'spring loaded' and got really scared when she saw the smoke. The ceiling panels covering the fluorescent lights are a little old and do look that way. I believe the combo of recurrent training, the video, the smoke, and the old ceiling panels contributed to her 'seeing' the ceiling panels turning black. As for my not declaring an emergency, I had the full intention of doing so but it got lost in the heat of the battle. I'm surprised that ATC did not ask me. I feel that they should have. Supplemental information from acn 475937: smoke is bad, however hearing 'cabin ceiling turning black' is even worse. Air conditioning unit sometimes gives off a little white smoke, big difference between that and ceiling turning black.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DEP B727 FLT TURNS BACK SHORTLY AFTER TKOF TO RETURN LAND AT DEN WHEN THERE IS RPTED SMOKE IN CABIN. A REQUEST FOR CFR EQUIP IS MADE AND A SHORT TURN TO LAND ON RWY 26 IS MADE AFTER FLT ATTENDANT SAYS THE CEILINGS ARE TURNING BLACK. EMER NOT DECLARED.
Narrative: ACFT HAD THE #3 HIGH/LOW STAGE PRESSURE VALVE AND PRESSURE REGULATOR REPLACED. A STATIC RUN-UP WAS DONE AND THE VALVE CHKED FINE. TAXI FOR TKOF UNEVENTFUL. FO WAS PF. TKOF UNEVENTFUL UNTIL 200-300 FT AGL. WE RECEIVED A CHIME FROM THE CABIN. WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS SMOKE IN THE CABIN. PACKS WERE OK, ENGS OK, NO OVERHEATING. CONTINUED CLB, LEVELED OFF AT 9000 FT MSL AND TOLD ATC WE WERE COMING BACK IN TO LAND BUT THAT WE NEEDED TO ASSESS THE SIT. I SENT SO BACK TO CHK THINGS OUT. HE CAME BACK AND SAID THAT THERE WAS SMOKE, IT SMELLED ELECTRICAL, BUT IT APPEARED TO BE DISSIPATING. WE DECIDED TO RETURN TO DEN AND LAND. WE WERE UNDER MAX LNDG WT. AT THIS POINT WE WERE DOWNWIND TO RWY 16 E OF THE ARPT. WE RECEIVED ANOTHER CHIME FROM THE CABIN AND WERE TOLD THAT THE CEILING PANELS 'WERE TURNING BLACK.' WE IMMEDIATELY MADE A L TURN AND HEADED FOR RWY 26 WHILE ALERTING ATC AND REQUESTING FIRE EQUIP. AT 500 FT WITH THE ACFT STABILIZED AND CHKLISTS DONE, I HAD THE SO ASK FLT ATTENDANT #1 IF WE NEEDED TO EVAC. SHE SAID NO. NOW WE WERE REALLY CONFUSED. IS THE AIRPLANE ON FIRE OR WHAT? WE LANDED, GOT OFF THE RWY AND STOPPED THE AIRPLANE. I HAD THE FLT ATTENDANT COME UP AND ASKED WHAT WAS GOING ON. SHE SAID THAT THERE DID NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY FIRE AND THE SMOKE WAS DISSIPATING. I ASKED THE FLT ATTENDANT WHO RPTED 'THE CEILING PANELS TURNING BLACK' TO COME TO THE COCKPIT. SHE SAID THAT AT THE TIME, THE CEILING PANELS DID APPEAR TO BE GETTING DARK AND STILL LOOKED A LITTLE DARK TO HER. I INSTRUCTED THE FLT ATTENDANT TO STAY IN THE AISLE (IN THE AREA OF CONCERN) WITH A FIRE EXTINGUISHER. I TOLD THE SO TO CALL COMPANY AND GET A GATE IMMEDIATELY AND TO TELL THEM WHAT WAS GOING ON. I TOLD ATC THAT WE WERE TAXIING BACK TO THE GATE BUT THAT I WANTED THE FIRE TRUCKS TO FOLLOW US. PARKING UNEVENTFUL BUT THEY WERE UNPREPARED FOR OUR ARR. THE AGENTS AND SUPVR CLAIMED THEY KNEW NOTHING ABOUT OUR ARR. PAX DISEMBARKED. WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE CEILING PANELS AND THEY LOOKED NORMAL. FLT DUTY MGR CALLED ME ON THE JETWAY PHONE AND I EXPLAINED THE EVENTS TO HIM. HE ASKED ME WHY I DIDN'T DECLARE AN EMER. IF ASKED BY ATC, I WOULD HAVE DONE SO, BUT AT THE TIME, I FELT THAT MY AIRPLANE WAS ON FIRE AND MY ONLY THOUGHT WAS TO GET IT ON THE GND. I DID NOT SAY THOSE WORDS (DECLARE AN EMER) BUT I THOUGHT MY MESSAGE WAS CONVEYED BY REQUESTING THE FIRE TRUCKS AND LNDG IMMEDIATELY. THIS FLT AND AIRPLANE HAD ALREADY EXPERIENCED 2 DELAYS DUE TO MECHANICAL PROBS. ONE REQUIRED THAT WE TAXI BACK TO THE GATE. THE FLT ATTENDANT THAT RPTED THE 'CEILING PANELS TURNING BLACK' HAD RECENTLY BEEN TO RECURRENT TRAINING AND HAD SEEN THE VIDEO OF THE CABIN BEING ON FIRE. I BELIEVE SHE WAS A LITTLE 'SPRING LOADED' AND GOT REALLY SCARED WHEN SHE SAW THE SMOKE. THE CEILING PANELS COVERING THE FLUORESCENT LIGHTS ARE A LITTLE OLD AND DO LOOK THAT WAY. I BELIEVE THE COMBO OF RECURRENT TRAINING, THE VIDEO, THE SMOKE, AND THE OLD CEILING PANELS CONTRIBUTED TO HER 'SEEING' THE CEILING PANELS TURNING BLACK. AS FOR MY NOT DECLARING AN EMER, I HAD THE FULL INTENTION OF DOING SO BUT IT GOT LOST IN THE HEAT OF THE BATTLE. I'M SURPRISED THAT ATC DID NOT ASK ME. I FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 475937: SMOKE IS BAD, HOWEVER HEARING 'CABIN CEILING TURNING BLACK' IS EVEN WORSE. AIR CONDITIONING UNIT SOMETIMES GIVES OFF A LITTLE WHITE SMOKE, BIG DIFFERENCE BTWN THAT AND CEILING TURNING BLACK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.