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Attributes | |
ACN | 475110 |
Time | |
Date | 200006 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl single value : 27000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 475110 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : dispatcher |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : diverted to another airport none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Company |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
About 20 NM east of pmm VOR (departed from iad) center informed us that mke airport was closing due to thunderstorms and we were to hold at pmm. While in the hold we decided we could deviate north of tvc then grb then south to mke and get behind the line of storms. We talked to dispatch and they agreed and gave us WX at grb and atw (on back side of line). We left the hold with 11000 pounds of fuel. As we proceeded nebound the line intensified over lake michigan and started pushing eastbound rather quickly. This put us further east than we anticipated. When we turned wbound we encountered strong headwinds. We talked to dispatch at that point and told them that we would like to change our destination to grb. They agreed and changed it. The WX in grb was such that I needed an alternate. With destination alternate and 45 mins reserve we were underfueled by 400 pounds. This would dip into the reserve. We decided this was the safest course of action rather than turn back east and go somewhere else. The rapidly changing WX was the major contributing factor along with the very strong headwinds encountered while passing around the line. An earlier deviation or diversion somewhere else may have prevented this, but when we started the deviation around the thunderstorms this looked like a viable route.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC9 CREW BECAME TRAPPED IN THE FAR FUEL REQUIREMENTS BY CHANGING DEST ARPTS.
Narrative: ABOUT 20 NM E OF PMM VOR (DEPARTED FROM IAD) CTR INFORMED US THAT MKE ARPT WAS CLOSING DUE TO TSTMS AND WE WERE TO HOLD AT PMM. WHILE IN THE HOLD WE DECIDED WE COULD DEVIATE N OF TVC THEN GRB THEN S TO MKE AND GET BEHIND THE LINE OF STORMS. WE TALKED TO DISPATCH AND THEY AGREED AND GAVE US WX AT GRB AND ATW (ON BACK SIDE OF LINE). WE LEFT THE HOLD WITH 11000 LBS OF FUEL. AS WE PROCEEDED NEBOUND THE LINE INTENSIFIED OVER LAKE MICHIGAN AND STARTED PUSHING EBOUND RATHER QUICKLY. THIS PUT US FURTHER E THAN WE ANTICIPATED. WHEN WE TURNED WBOUND WE ENCOUNTERED STRONG HEADWINDS. WE TALKED TO DISPATCH AT THAT POINT AND TOLD THEM THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE OUR DEST TO GRB. THEY AGREED AND CHANGED IT. THE WX IN GRB WAS SUCH THAT I NEEDED AN ALTERNATE. WITH DEST ALTERNATE AND 45 MINS RESERVE WE WERE UNDERFUELED BY 400 LBS. THIS WOULD DIP INTO THE RESERVE. WE DECIDED THIS WAS THE SAFEST COURSE OF ACTION RATHER THAN TURN BACK E AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. THE RAPIDLY CHANGING WX WAS THE MAJOR CONTRIBUTING FACTOR ALONG WITH THE VERY STRONG HEADWINDS ENCOUNTERED WHILE PASSING AROUND THE LINE. AN EARLIER DEV OR DIVERSION SOMEWHERE ELSE MAY HAVE PREVENTED THIS, BUT WHEN WE STARTED THE DEV AROUND THE TSTMS THIS LOOKED LIKE A VIABLE RTE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.