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Attributes | |
ACN | 475630 |
Time | |
Date | 200006 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hpn.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Challenger Jet Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors departure sid : hpn.one |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3300 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 475630 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : altitude alert other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared via the westchester one departure. After turning west we were cleared to an intermediate altitude and then to 7000 ft. I set the altitude alerter to 7000 ft and confirmed armed and vertical speed on both flight directors. The alerter sounded and I confirmed 'one to go.' we then got a heading change, TCASII TA and controller advisory all about the same time. After changing my heading bug and looking out to find the traffic, I saw we were climbing through our assigned altitude. I pointed to the altitude selected and said '7000 ft assigned' simultaneously. The captain retarded the power and descended to 7000 ft as rapidly as possible. The controller asked our altitude, which was then back to 7000 ft. This captain likes to fly fast, particularly in the vertical mode. We were on a short flight and at a light weight, which gave this aircraft great climb capability. The PF increased his already aggressive climb when we got the TCASII TA, which was unnecessary with less than 1000 ft to go. Contributing factors were a mistake in the dispatch process, our passenger showed up 1 hour earlier than shown, and a new flight hostess who had minimal charter experience didn't get her galley properly catered, and made several trips to the cockpit to ask if we knew where things were. Next time I will be more assertive about pointing out vertical speed and keeping a better balance between situational awareness and looking for traffic. I'll also try to slow up the pace so we don't feel so rushed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT OVERSHOOT W OF WHITE PLAINS, NY.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED VIA THE WESTCHESTER ONE DEP. AFTER TURNING W WE WERE CLRED TO AN INTERMEDIATE ALT AND THEN TO 7000 FT. I SET THE ALT ALERTER TO 7000 FT AND CONFIRMED ARMED AND VERT SPD ON BOTH FLT DIRECTORS. THE ALERTER SOUNDED AND I CONFIRMED 'ONE TO GO.' WE THEN GOT A HEADING CHANGE, TCASII TA AND CTLR ADVISORY ALL ABOUT THE SAME TIME. AFTER CHANGING MY HEADING BUG AND LOOKING OUT TO FIND THE TFC, I SAW WE WERE CLBING THROUGH OUR ASSIGNED ALT. I POINTED TO THE ALT SELECTED AND SAID '7000 FT ASSIGNED' SIMULTANEOUSLY. THE CAPT RETARDED THE PWR AND DSNDED TO 7000 FT AS RAPIDLY AS POSSIBLE. THE CTLR ASKED OUR ALT, WHICH WAS THEN BACK TO 7000 FT. THIS CAPT LIKES TO FLY FAST, PARTICULARLY IN THE VERT MODE. WE WERE ON A SHORT FLT AND AT A LIGHT WT, WHICH GAVE THIS ACFT GREAT CLB CAPABILITY. THE PF INCREASED HIS ALREADY AGGRESSIVE CLB WHEN WE GOT THE TCASII TA, WHICH WAS UNNECESSARY WITH LESS THAN 1000 FT TO GO. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS WERE A MISTAKE IN THE DISPATCH PROCESS, OUR PAX SHOWED UP 1 HR EARLIER THAN SHOWN, AND A NEW FLT HOSTESS WHO HAD MINIMAL CHARTER EXPERIENCE DIDN'T GET HER GALLEY PROPERLY CATERED, AND MADE SEVERAL TRIPS TO THE COCKPIT TO ASK IF WE KNEW WHERE THINGS WERE. NEXT TIME I WILL BE MORE ASSERTIVE ABOUT POINTING OUT VERT SPD AND KEEPING A BETTER BAL BTWN SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AND LOOKING FOR TFC. I'LL ALSO TRY TO SLOW UP THE PACE SO WE DON'T FEEL SO RUSHED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.