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Attributes | |
ACN | 476868 |
Time | |
Date | 200006 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 41000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Ice Rain Windshear Turbulence Thunderstorm |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : n/s |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 476868 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : turbulence inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllerb other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 14500 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After having maintenance done, we had a delayed departure from basel, switzerland, to jeddah, saudi arabia. We were given a SID from basel clearance. On departure, there was significant WX en route. My copilot, very junior, was having a difficult time with the radios. The departure controller asked us our clearance. We had a different clearance than he was expecting and he assigned a heading. Within 2 mins, we were heading into a thunderstorm with severe turbulence. We requested a turn to the right. He also asked us our requested level. A series of radio calls ensued between my copilot and the controller on the altitude. We had been cleared to FL240, but I heard FL410 from the basil 3 times. At the same time, we were unable to maintain altitude because of a severe tossing about by the wind. I busted through FL240 and picked up a heading of 120 degrees trying to avoid a buildup. It was then I realized a TCASII picture of nearby traffic and the controller asking me my altitude. I immediately stopped climbing as best I could, still in turbulence. We had closed to within 2 1/2 mi and within 500 ft I believe. This is my first real time of being completely saturated with a combination of WX, inexperienced copilot, language problems, and the lot, and I found it illuminating. We cleared the traffic and proceeded to FL410 on that heading.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT AND HDG DEV IN FOREIGN OP.
Narrative: AFTER HAVING MAINT DONE, WE HAD A DELAYED DEP FROM BASEL, SWITZERLAND, TO JEDDAH, SAUDI ARABIA. WE WERE GIVEN A SID FROM BASEL CLRNC. ON DEP, THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT WX ENRTE. MY COPLT, VERY JUNIOR, WAS HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME WITH THE RADIOS. THE DEP CTLR ASKED US OUR CLRNC. WE HAD A DIFFERENT CLRNC THAN HE WAS EXPECTING AND HE ASSIGNED A HDG. WITHIN 2 MINS, WE WERE HDG INTO A TSTM WITH SEVERE TURB. WE REQUESTED A TURN TO THE R. HE ALSO ASKED US OUR REQUESTED LEVEL. A SERIES OF RADIO CALLS ENSUED BTWN MY COPLT AND THE CTLR ON THE ALT. WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO FL240, BUT I HEARD FL410 FROM THE BASIL 3 TIMES. AT THE SAME TIME, WE WERE UNABLE TO MAINTAIN ALT BECAUSE OF A SEVERE TOSSING ABOUT BY THE WIND. I BUSTED THROUGH FL240 AND PICKED UP A HDG OF 120 DEGS TRYING TO AVOID A BUILDUP. IT WAS THEN I REALIZED A TCASII PICTURE OF NEARBY TFC AND THE CTLR ASKING ME MY ALT. I IMMEDIATELY STOPPED CLBING AS BEST I COULD, STILL IN TURB. WE HAD CLOSED TO WITHIN 2 1/2 MI AND WITHIN 500 FT I BELIEVE. THIS IS MY FIRST REAL TIME OF BEING COMPLETELY SATURATED WITH A COMBINATION OF WX, INEXPERIENCED COPLT, LANGUAGE PROBS, AND THE LOT, AND I FOUND IT ILLUMINATING. WE CLRED THE TFC AND PROCEEDED TO FL410 ON THAT HDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.