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An approach radar controller at P80 claims a class B airspace at pdx would require aircraft to call before crossing the airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 477998 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200007 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| State Reference | OR |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2700 msl bound upper : 3300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : p80.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : p80.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Xingu EMB-121 All Series |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 119 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller military : 4 controller radar : 13 |
| ASRS Report | 477998 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airspace Structure | class c : pdx.c |
Narrative:
Air carrier X, a B767 on approach to pdx runway 10R. Traffic was issued a VFR at 3000 ft on the final approach course. This VFR target flew right across both final approach courses. Air carrier Y, an E120 at 3500 ft descending for the parallel runway flew right over the top of this traffic also, who was then at 3300 ft. The VFR aircraft never called anyone. If a class B airspace was here these aircraft would be required to call. This was clearly a violation of class C airspace. We were unable to track this aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN APCH RADAR CTLR AT P80 CLAIMS A CLASS B AIRSPACE AT PDX WOULD REQUIRE ACFT TO CALL BEFORE XING THE ARPT.
Narrative: ACR X, A B767 ON APCH TO PDX RWY 10R. TFC WAS ISSUED A VFR AT 3000 FT ON THE FINAL APCH COURSE. THIS VFR TARGET FLEW RIGHT ACROSS BOTH FINAL APCH COURSES. ACR Y, AN E120 AT 3500 FT DSNDING FOR THE PARALLEL RWY FLEW RIGHT OVER THE TOP OF THIS TFC ALSO, WHO WAS THEN AT 3300 FT. THE VFR ACFT NEVER CALLED ANYONE. IF A CLASS B AIRSPACE WAS HERE THESE ACFT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CALL. THIS WAS CLRLY A VIOLATION OF CLASS C AIRSPACE. WE WERE UNABLE TO TRACK THIS ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.