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Attributes | |
ACN | 478121 |
Time | |
Date | 200006 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : maintenance ground : parked ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 478121 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | other other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Company Maintenance Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
After reviewing logbook and MEL, my crew and I came to the conclusion that the aircraft was not legal for dispatch according to MEL and logbook entries. The aircraft was boarded and 30 mins past departure time due to late aircraft arrival and maintenance on board. I called maintenance technician to verify my interpretation of MEL and should the aircraft have been removed from service due to the placarded item being a category 'a' repair item and 3 flight days have elapsed from the date listed on the placard. After a while, I had a maintenance chief next to me and a maintenance technician supervisor on the phone explaining to me that the placard was not in effect due to aircraft being out of service and the 3 flight days were being counted as a monday, a tuesday, and a thursday. With anxious passenger and agent, I convinced myself I was missing something and they must be right. After all, I would be the third captain to accept aircraft that day. I initialed logbook and had an uneventful flight to mci. En route, I again reviewed both the logbook and MEL and further discussed this with the first officer and flight engineer. We again arrived at our original conclusion -- that the aircraft should not have been in service unless that item had been repaired. If maintenance technician is correct, then I have no reference to verify their interpretation of when the 3 flight days should begin.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727-200 INCURRED A DELAY FOR INTERP OF THE MEL ON 3 DAY DEFERRALS AND WHEN THE PERIOD BEGINS AND ENDS.
Narrative: AFTER REVIEWING LOGBOOK AND MEL, MY CREW AND I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE ACFT WAS NOT LEGAL FOR DISPATCH ACCORDING TO MEL AND LOGBOOK ENTRIES. THE ACFT WAS BOARDED AND 30 MINS PAST DEP TIME DUE TO LATE ACFT ARR AND MAINT ON BOARD. I CALLED MAINT TECHNICIAN TO VERIFY MY INTERP OF MEL AND SHOULD THE ACFT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM SVC DUE TO THE PLACARDED ITEM BEING A CATEGORY 'A' REPAIR ITEM AND 3 FLT DAYS HAVE ELAPSED FROM THE DATE LISTED ON THE PLACARD. AFTER A WHILE, I HAD A MAINT CHIEF NEXT TO ME AND A MAINT TECHNICIAN SUPVR ON THE PHONE EXPLAINING TO ME THAT THE PLACARD WAS NOT IN EFFECT DUE TO ACFT BEING OUT OF SVC AND THE 3 FLT DAYS WERE BEING COUNTED AS A MONDAY, A TUESDAY, AND A THURSDAY. WITH ANXIOUS PAX AND AGENT, I CONVINCED MYSELF I WAS MISSING SOMETHING AND THEY MUST BE RIGHT. AFTER ALL, I WOULD BE THE THIRD CAPT TO ACCEPT ACFT THAT DAY. I INITIALED LOGBOOK AND HAD AN UNEVENTFUL FLT TO MCI. ENRTE, I AGAIN REVIEWED BOTH THE LOGBOOK AND MEL AND FURTHER DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE FO AND FE. WE AGAIN ARRIVED AT OUR ORIGINAL CONCLUSION -- THAT THE ACFT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN SVC UNLESS THAT ITEM HAD BEEN REPAIRED. IF MAINT TECHNICIAN IS CORRECT, THEN I HAVE NO REF TO VERIFY THEIR INTERP OF WHEN THE 3 FLT DAYS SHOULD BEGIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.