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Attributes | |
ACN | 478365 |
Time | |
Date | 200007 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phl.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : ns |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 478365 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Taxiing to the gate the first officer set 5000 ft into the altitude alerter anticipating the phl 6 departure. We were cleared to our destination and told to maintain 4000 ft. During the brief for takeoff, I (the captain) briefed 5000 ft off of the alerter and neither of us checked the clearance as written by the first officer. Upon leveling at 5000 ft, the controller queried as to our cleared altitude and we realized our mistake though there was no traffic conflict. After discussing the problem, we decided that setting an outbound altitude during taxiing in is not only illegal but unsafe. We also discussed our clearance referencing the original copy during the brief.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A BE1900 FLC CLBS TO 5000 FT BASED UPON THEIR ALT ALERTER SETTING BUT HAD ONLY BEEN CLRED TO 4000 FT NW OF PHL, PA.
Narrative: TAXIING TO THE GATE THE FO SET 5000 FT INTO THE ALT ALERTER ANTICIPATING THE PHL 6 DEP. WE WERE CLRED TO OUR DEST AND TOLD TO MAINTAIN 4000 FT. DURING THE BRIEF FOR TKOF, I (THE CAPT) BRIEFED 5000 FT OFF OF THE ALERTER AND NEITHER OF US CHKED THE CLRNC AS WRITTEN BY THE FO. UPON LEVELING AT 5000 FT, THE CTLR QUERIED AS TO OUR CLRED ALT AND WE REALIZED OUR MISTAKE THOUGH THERE WAS NO TFC CONFLICT. AFTER DISCUSSING THE PROB, WE DECIDED THAT SETTING AN OUTBOUND ALT DURING TAXIING IN IS NOT ONLY ILLEGAL BUT UNSAFE. WE ALSO DISCUSSED OUR CLRNC REFING THE ORIGINAL COPY DURING THE BRIEF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.