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A CL65 PIC allows a new hire first officer to land the aircraft with a crosswind and unrpted gusts, suffering a left wingtip strike at cyyz, on.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 478471 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200007 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cyyz.airport |
| State Reference | ON |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Weather Elements | Turbulence |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 747 flight time total : 10000 |
| ASRS Report | 478471 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 1800 flight time type : 200 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical ground encounters other non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | other other other Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Facility ATC Human Performance Aircraft Environmental Factor |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Inbound to yyz ATIS gave winds 360 degrees at 17 KTS gusting to 30 KTS. 53 mins later, we touched down. We were given 360 degrees at 23 KTS -- no gusts mentioned. Allowed first officer to continue approach. (First officer has 1800 hours (200 in type), 6 months with company, 3 months on line, previous experience light reciprocating twins.) smooth approach. Deep in flare, aircraft dropped and rolled left. Striking left wingtip (underside). Scraped area about 14 inches by 4 inches by 1/8 inch deep. No indication of contact from cockpit -- aircraft built low. Concerned of possible contact due to bank angle on touchdown. Found damage on postflt. Aircraft ferried out by other crew. Maintenance coordinated with air carrier. Covered with speed tape. Inspected every 500 hours. Crew debriefed with director of operations. Given line check, returned to service. I feel if I had been at (was prepared to take) controls, I would have been quicker to react more aggressively in recovery. Do not believe it was windshear. Wake turbulence not likely. No obstructions upwind to create currents/eddies. No gusts reported to us on at least 2 previous operations. CL65 is derived from CL604. To my knowledge, gear ht or stance not varied -- wing span was to make crj. Bad geometry. Still feel first officer capable of approach. Feel decision to allow him to land a good decision with poor results.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CL65 PIC ALLOWS A NEW HIRE FO TO LAND THE ACFT WITH A XWIND AND UNRPTED GUSTS, SUFFERING A L WINGTIP STRIKE AT CYYZ, ON.
Narrative: INBOUND TO YYZ ATIS GAVE WINDS 360 DEGS AT 17 KTS GUSTING TO 30 KTS. 53 MINS LATER, WE TOUCHED DOWN. WE WERE GIVEN 360 DEGS AT 23 KTS -- NO GUSTS MENTIONED. ALLOWED FO TO CONTINUE APCH. (FO HAS 1800 HRS (200 IN TYPE), 6 MONTHS WITH COMPANY, 3 MONTHS ON LINE, PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE LIGHT RECIPROCATING TWINS.) SMOOTH APCH. DEEP IN FLARE, ACFT DROPPED AND ROLLED L. STRIKING L WINGTIP (UNDERSIDE). SCRAPED AREA ABOUT 14 INCHES BY 4 INCHES BY 1/8 INCH DEEP. NO INDICATION OF CONTACT FROM COCKPIT -- ACFT BUILT LOW. CONCERNED OF POSSIBLE CONTACT DUE TO BANK ANGLE ON TOUCHDOWN. FOUND DAMAGE ON POSTFLT. ACFT FERRIED OUT BY OTHER CREW. MAINT COORDINATED WITH ACR. COVERED WITH SPD TAPE. INSPECTED EVERY 500 HRS. CREW DEBRIEFED WITH DIRECTOR OF OPS. GIVEN LINE CHK, RETURNED TO SVC. I FEEL IF I HAD BEEN AT (WAS PREPARED TO TAKE) CTLS, I WOULD HAVE BEEN QUICKER TO REACT MORE AGGRESSIVELY IN RECOVERY. DO NOT BELIEVE IT WAS WINDSHEAR. WAKE TURB NOT LIKELY. NO OBSTRUCTIONS UPWIND TO CREATE CURRENTS/EDDIES. NO GUSTS RPTED TO US ON AT LEAST 2 PREVIOUS OPS. CL65 IS DERIVED FROM CL604. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, GEAR HT OR STANCE NOT VARIED -- WING SPAN WAS TO MAKE CRJ. BAD GEOMETRY. STILL FEEL FO CAPABLE OF APCH. FEEL DECISION TO ALLOW HIM TO LAND A GOOD DECISION WITH POOR RESULTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.