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Attributes | |
ACN | 481775 |
Time | |
Date | 200008 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pit.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pit.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 450 |
ASRS Report | 481775 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather FAA ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : pit.tracon staffing : pit.tracon |
Narrative:
Climbing out of pit, mid day, thunderstorms, many aircraft deviating, we got an RA TCASII warning to descend at approximately 1200-1500 FPM. (We were climbing at about 3000 FPM.) we followed the TCASII instructions. Upon calling pit departure to report the RA, the controller would not acknowledge it. I, as captain, finally refused the frequency change until he acknowledged my RA. He finally said there was an air carrier flight above me and that 'there wasn't a problem.' upon speaking to his supervisor later, I confirmed this controller was swamped, working 2 sectors with WX deviations going on. Supervisor said he was overseeing this controller, but he initially used the phrase 'I came over to him....' there was not enough help for this controller, and he was definitely overloaded! During this type of WX/traffic situation, all hands should be on deck.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 CREW HAD A TCASII RA IN PIT CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: CLBING OUT OF PIT, MID DAY, TSTMS, MANY ACFT DEVIATING, WE GOT AN RA TCASII WARNING TO DSND AT APPROX 1200-1500 FPM. (WE WERE CLBING AT ABOUT 3000 FPM.) WE FOLLOWED THE TCASII INSTRUCTIONS. UPON CALLING PIT DEP TO RPT THE RA, THE CTLR WOULD NOT ACKNOWLEDGE IT. I, AS CAPT, FINALLY REFUSED THE FREQ CHANGE UNTIL HE ACKNOWLEDGED MY RA. HE FINALLY SAID THERE WAS AN ACR FLT ABOVE ME AND THAT 'THERE WASN'T A PROB.' UPON SPEAKING TO HIS SUPVR LATER, I CONFIRMED THIS CTLR WAS SWAMPED, WORKING 2 SECTORS WITH WX DEVS GOING ON. SUPVR SAID HE WAS OVERSEEING THIS CTLR, BUT HE INITIALLY USED THE PHRASE 'I CAME OVER TO HIM....' THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH HELP FOR THIS CTLR, AND HE WAS DEFINITELY OVERLOADED! DURING THIS TYPE OF WX/TFC SIT, ALL HANDS SHOULD BE ON DECK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.