A lear 25 flight crew overshoots their assigned altitude when using too high of a rate of climb near...

Attributes
ACN	482170
Time
Date	200008
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : crg.vortac
State Reference	FL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 25000 msl bound upper : 25500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zjx.artcc
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Learjet 25
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other vortac
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : first officer instruction : instructor oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 23100 flight time type : 3100
ASRS Report	482170
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to assigned altitude
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Company Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I was acting as instructing captain for a captain-to-be. Other pilot is typed, not competent. He doesn't use autoplt to much advantage. Assigned FL250. I called (in climb) 1000 ft to go, then approaching FL250. Rate of climb still 2000 FPM at FL250. I answered a radio call from center. Center noted we were at FL255. I commanded immediate descent. This situation is a barrel of worms. Other pilot's company hires me as copilot/instructor until their pilot is capable of flying PIC with less experienced copilot. This other pilot is not alert enough for the fast-changing altitudes of the lear. My only choice is to hammer on the necessity of using autoplt and beginning leveloff 1000 ft ahead by slow to at most 1000 FPM rate of climb/descent.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A LEAR 25 FLC OVERSHOOTS THEIR ASSIGNED ALT WHEN USING TOO HIGH OF A RATE OF CLB NEAR CRG, FL.

Narrative: I WAS ACTING AS INSTRUCTING CAPT FOR A CAPT-TO-BE. OTHER PLT IS TYPED, NOT COMPETENT. HE DOESN'T USE AUTOPLT TO MUCH ADVANTAGE. ASSIGNED FL250. I CALLED (IN CLB) 1000 FT TO GO, THEN APCHING FL250. RATE OF CLB STILL 2000 FPM AT FL250. I ANSWERED A RADIO CALL FROM CTR. CTR NOTED WE WERE AT FL255. I COMMANDED IMMEDIATE DSCNT. THIS SIT IS A BARREL OF WORMS. OTHER PLT'S COMPANY HIRES ME AS COPLT/INSTRUCTOR UNTIL THEIR PLT IS CAPABLE OF FLYING PIC WITH LESS EXPERIENCED COPLT. THIS OTHER PLT IS NOT ALERT ENOUGH FOR THE FAST-CHANGING ALTS OF THE LEAR. MY ONLY CHOICE IS TO HAMMER ON THE NECESSITY OF USING AUTOPLT AND BEGINNING LEVELOFF 1000 FT AHEAD BY SLOW TO AT MOST 1000 FPM RATE OF CLB/DSCNT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

A lear 25 flight crew overshoots their assigned altitude when using too high of a rate of climb near crg, fl.