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Attributes | |
ACN | 482740 |
Time | |
Date | 200008 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 482740 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 482739 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport Passenger Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Possible runway incursion. Leaving gate at ord. Ground gave directions to runway 4L, left on txwys B, P, H, and east. While on taxiway H, approaching taxiway a, ground said hold short of runway 4L on taxiway east, monitor tower. I crossed runway 4L to continue to taxiway east. After we crossed runway 4L tower called us. The first officer, who had been off the frequency and on the intercom, answered, saying we think we made a wrong turn to runway 4L. Tower then said hold short of runway 4L on taxiway east. Nothing more was said from tower. The directions I described from ground on initial contact are what I heard, wrote down and the first officer confirmed with ground. On readback to ground there was no response leading us to proceed as directed. Looking at the airport diagram, it makes more sense to approach runway 4L from the south of taxiway east, but I believe we taxied as directed. There was an aircraft occupying that position on taxiway east and no room for another aircraft. An additional factor was first officer was off frequency at a critical time discussing a passenger problem with a flight attendant. There were no aircraft taking off or landing on runway 4L at the time and there were no other aircraft taxiing near our position at the time. Supplemental information from acn 482739: ground control gave us taxi instructions counter-clockwise flow to runway 4L. We thought the instructions were txwys B, P H, east to runway 4L. As we turned wbound on taxiway H, flight attendant #1 called us with a passenger problem. I listened to the problem, and then relayed the information to the captain. We discussed the problem and then I relayed the solution for the passenger back to flight attendant #1. After hanging up the phone, I got my bearings and realized we were taxiing across runway 4L on taxiway H. I do not think we were supposed to taxi across runway 4L left to get to the end of the runway, but were supposed to take taxiway H to taxiway a to taxiway east to runway 4L. The captain had been handed off to tower while I was on the phone. After crossing runway 4L, the tower called us and told us to turn left onto taxiway east for runway left. There did not appear to be a conflict with any other aircraft when we taxied across runway 4L. I feel this possible incursion would not have happened if we had not been interrupted with the passenger problem. Also, it was a non standard taxi to runway 4L, as we usually taxi clockwise on ord outbounds.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CREW HAD RWY INCURSION AT ORD.
Narrative: POSSIBLE RWY INCURSION. LEAVING GATE AT ORD. GND GAVE DIRECTIONS TO RWY 4L, L ON TXWYS B, P, H, AND E. WHILE ON TXWY H, APCHING TXWY A, GND SAID HOLD SHORT OF RWY 4L ON TXWY E, MONITOR TWR. I CROSSED RWY 4L TO CONTINUE TO TXWY E. AFTER WE CROSSED RWY 4L TWR CALLED US. THE FO, WHO HAD BEEN OFF THE FREQ AND ON THE INTERCOM, ANSWERED, SAYING WE THINK WE MADE A WRONG TURN TO RWY 4L. TWR THEN SAID HOLD SHORT OF RWY 4L ON TXWY E. NOTHING MORE WAS SAID FROM TWR. THE DIRECTIONS I DESCRIBED FROM GND ON INITIAL CONTACT ARE WHAT I HEARD, WROTE DOWN AND THE FO CONFIRMED WITH GND. ON READBACK TO GND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE LEADING US TO PROCEED AS DIRECTED. LOOKING AT THE ARPT DIAGRAM, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO APCH RWY 4L FROM THE S OF TXWY E, BUT I BELIEVE WE TAXIED AS DIRECTED. THERE WAS AN ACFT OCCUPYING THAT POS ON TXWY E AND NO ROOM FOR ANOTHER ACFT. AN ADDITIONAL FACTOR WAS FO WAS OFF FREQ AT A CRITICAL TIME DISCUSSING A PAX PROB WITH A FLT ATTENDANT. THERE WERE NO ACFT TAKING OFF OR LNDG ON RWY 4L AT THE TIME AND THERE WERE NO OTHER ACFT TAXIING NEAR OUR POS AT THE TIME. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 482739: GND CTL GAVE US TAXI INSTRUCTIONS COUNTER-CLOCKWISE FLOW TO RWY 4L. WE THOUGHT THE INSTRUCTIONS WERE TXWYS B, P H, E TO RWY 4L. AS WE TURNED WBOUND ON TXWY H, FLT ATTENDANT #1 CALLED US WITH A PAX PROB. I LISTENED TO THE PROB, AND THEN RELAYED THE INFO TO THE CAPT. WE DISCUSSED THE PROB AND THEN I RELAYED THE SOLUTION FOR THE PAX BACK TO FLT ATTENDANT #1. AFTER HANGING UP THE PHONE, I GOT MY BEARINGS AND REALIZED WE WERE TAXIING ACROSS RWY 4L ON TXWY H. I DO NOT THINK WE WERE SUPPOSED TO TAXI ACROSS RWY 4L L TO GET TO THE END OF THE RWY, BUT WERE SUPPOSED TO TAKE TXWY H TO TXWY A TO TXWY E TO RWY 4L. THE CAPT HAD BEEN HANDED OFF TO TWR WHILE I WAS ON THE PHONE. AFTER XING RWY 4L, THE TWR CALLED US AND TOLD US TO TURN L ONTO TXWY E FOR RWY L. THERE DID NOT APPEAR TO BE A CONFLICT WITH ANY OTHER ACFT WHEN WE TAXIED ACROSS RWY 4L. I FEEL THIS POSSIBLE INCURSION WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF WE HAD NOT BEEN INTERRUPTED WITH THE PAX PROB. ALSO, IT WAS A NON STANDARD TAXI TO RWY 4L, AS WE USUALLY TAXI CLOCKWISE ON ORD OUTBOUNDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.