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Attributes | |
ACN | 482800 |
Time | |
Date | 200008 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR 42 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : vfr |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 3600 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 482800 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure other |
Narrative:
Air carrier flight was on a governor's island VFR departure out of ewr. Over central park ATC advised us to proceed on course, climb and maintain 2500 ft. Both crew members confirmed this with each other and my readback to ATC was slow and deliberate as I am not an ewr based pilot and not 100% confident on all local procedures. Upon leveling at 2500 ft, ATC advised us we were supposed to be at 2000 ft but then told us to continue our climb to 3500 ft. My original readback was never corrected by ATC. We had climbed from 1500 ft coming up the hudson river. I believe ATC is in error when they said we should have been at 2000 ft. ATC should have informed me if my readback was wrong as it was spoken slowly and clearly. There was very little radio congestion and ATC was not very busy.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MDT TURBOPROP ON VFR DEP WAS ALERTED BY DEP CTL THAT THEY HAD OVERSHOT INTERMEDIATE DEP ALT.
Narrative: ACR FLT WAS ON A GOVERNOR'S ISLAND VFR DEP OUT OF EWR. OVER CENTRAL PARK ATC ADVISED US TO PROCEED ON COURSE, CLB AND MAINTAIN 2500 FT. BOTH CREW MEMBERS CONFIRMED THIS WITH EACH OTHER AND MY READBACK TO ATC WAS SLOW AND DELIBERATE AS I AM NOT AN EWR BASED PLT AND NOT 100% CONFIDENT ON ALL LCL PROCS. UPON LEVELING AT 2500 FT, ATC ADVISED US WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AT 2000 FT BUT THEN TOLD US TO CONTINUE OUR CLB TO 3500 FT. MY ORIGINAL READBACK WAS NEVER CORRECTED BY ATC. WE HAD CLBED FROM 1500 FT COMING UP THE HUDSON RIVER. I BELIEVE ATC IS IN ERROR WHEN THEY SAID WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT 2000 FT. ATC SHOULD HAVE INFORMED ME IF MY READBACK WAS WRONG AS IT WAS SPOKEN SLOWLY AND CLRLY. THERE WAS VERY LITTLE RADIO CONGESTION AND ATC WAS NOT VERY BUSY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.