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Attributes | |
ACN | 484624 |
Time | |
Date | 200007 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dma.airport |
State Reference | NE |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5300 flight time type : 3200 |
ASRS Report | 484624 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance FAA ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
On landing rollout runway 14R at eppley, crew had briefed an exit at taxiway D, but approaching taxiway C/runway 18, tower directed us to 'turn right on taxiway C.' with only 1-2 seconds to make a decision, and no time for a reply to tower, or to query tower, captain attempted to exit as instructed, but considering our speed, he felt it was safer to stop halfway through the turn (runway 18) rather than trying to make the full 90 degree turn to taxiway C. Tower was upset that we exited onto an active runway 18, when not given permission to do so. Captain's position was that he was given an instruction which he could not safely follow, and with no alternate instruction, eg, 'if unable to comply, exit on taxiway D,' and no time for questions, he did the safest thing while attempting to comply with what he thought the tower needed, which was for us to get off of runway 14R as soon as possible. Conclusion: tower shouldn't have issued any instruction in this case, but since he did, he should have included an 'if unable to comply' instruction. Captain was put in a position where he had to guess at what it was that tower needed, and in doing so, exited onto an active runway without permission.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 CREW WAS GIVEN A LAST MIN CHANGE IN THE RWY EXIT PLAN AT OMA.
Narrative: ON LNDG ROLLOUT RWY 14R AT EPPLEY, CREW HAD BRIEFED AN EXIT AT TXWY D, BUT APCHING TXWY C/RWY 18, TWR DIRECTED US TO 'TURN R ON TXWY C.' WITH ONLY 1-2 SECONDS TO MAKE A DECISION, AND NO TIME FOR A REPLY TO TWR, OR TO QUERY TWR, CAPT ATTEMPTED TO EXIT AS INSTRUCTED, BUT CONSIDERING OUR SPD, HE FELT IT WAS SAFER TO STOP HALFWAY THROUGH THE TURN (RWY 18) RATHER THAN TRYING TO MAKE THE FULL 90 DEG TURN TO TXWY C. TWR WAS UPSET THAT WE EXITED ONTO AN ACTIVE RWY 18, WHEN NOT GIVEN PERMISSION TO DO SO. CAPT'S POS WAS THAT HE WAS GIVEN AN INSTRUCTION WHICH HE COULD NOT SAFELY FOLLOW, AND WITH NO ALTERNATE INSTRUCTION, EG, 'IF UNABLE TO COMPLY, EXIT ON TXWY D,' AND NO TIME FOR QUESTIONS, HE DID THE SAFEST THING WHILE ATTEMPTING TO COMPLY WITH WHAT HE THOUGHT THE TWR NEEDED, WHICH WAS FOR US TO GET OFF OF RWY 14R ASAP. CONCLUSION: TWR SHOULDN'T HAVE ISSUED ANY INSTRUCTION IN THIS CASE, BUT SINCE HE DID, HE SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED AN 'IF UNABLE TO COMPLY' INSTRUCTION. CAPT WAS PUT IN A POS WHERE HE HAD TO GUESS AT WHAT IT WAS THAT TWR NEEDED, AND IN DOING SO, EXITED ONTO AN ACTIVE RWY WITHOUT PERMISSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.