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Attributes | |
ACN | 484920 |
Time | |
Date | 200009 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord.tower tower : jfk.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 484920 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 485594 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were cleared for takeoff on runway 22L behind an air carrier Y regional jet and instructed to turn left heading 110 degrees. As I increased thrust to takeoff power, the regional jet was at rotation. The spacing between us and the regional jet looked close but the tower controller was expediting 2 departures prior to an arrival. At 400 ft AGL, I began a left turn to 110 degrees with the regional jet in sight, still ahead. He began to turn left as well. We were both instructed to climb to 5000 ft MSL. I had heard the regional jet being cleared for takeoff with a heading of 180 degrees. In reality, he was instructed to turn to 80 degrees. The controller was expecting me to turn outside of the regional jet but due to the performance of my aircraft and the regional jet delaying his turn, we ended up turning inside of him. In order to keep from colliding with the regional jet I had to continue my turn past 110 degrees and I leveled off at 2000 ft MSL. The regional jet passed from right to left directly 500 ft above us. My first officer was able to maintain visual contact with the regional jet the entire time. We also had a TCASII alert followed by an RA to 'monitor vertical speed' followed by a command to 'descend.' I believe the ATC controller turned me too soon and underestimated the performance of my aircraft. The ATC controller made no reference to the preceding regional jet until I began taking evasive action to avoid a collision.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MLG TOOK EVASIVE ACTION DURING INITIAL CLB TURN IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA AND OBSERVATION OF A REGIONAL JET THAT HAD TAKEN OFF AHEAD OF THEM AND ALSO TURNING THE SAME DIRECTION.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 22L BEHIND AN ACR Y REGIONAL JET AND INSTRUCTED TO TURN L HDG 110 DEGS. AS I INCREASED THRUST TO TKOF PWR, THE REGIONAL JET WAS AT ROTATION. THE SPACING BTWN US AND THE REGIONAL JET LOOKED CLOSE BUT THE TWR CTLR WAS EXPEDITING 2 DEPS PRIOR TO AN ARR. AT 400 FT AGL, I BEGAN A L TURN TO 110 DEGS WITH THE REGIONAL JET IN SIGHT, STILL AHEAD. HE BEGAN TO TURN L AS WELL. WE WERE BOTH INSTRUCTED TO CLB TO 5000 FT MSL. I HAD HEARD THE REGIONAL JET BEING CLRED FOR TKOF WITH A HDG OF 180 DEGS. IN REALITY, HE WAS INSTRUCTED TO TURN TO 80 DEGS. THE CTLR WAS EXPECTING ME TO TURN OUTSIDE OF THE REGIONAL JET BUT DUE TO THE PERFORMANCE OF MY ACFT AND THE REGIONAL JET DELAYING HIS TURN, WE ENDED UP TURNING INSIDE OF HIM. IN ORDER TO KEEP FROM COLLIDING WITH THE REGIONAL JET I HAD TO CONTINUE MY TURN PAST 110 DEGS AND I LEVELED OFF AT 2000 FT MSL. THE REGIONAL JET PASSED FROM R TO L DIRECTLY 500 FT ABOVE US. MY FO WAS ABLE TO MAINTAIN VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE REGIONAL JET THE ENTIRE TIME. WE ALSO HAD A TCASII ALERT FOLLOWED BY AN RA TO 'MONITOR VERT SPD' FOLLOWED BY A COMMAND TO 'DSND.' I BELIEVE THE ATC CTLR TURNED ME TOO SOON AND UNDERESTIMATED THE PERFORMANCE OF MY ACFT. THE ATC CTLR MADE NO REF TO THE PRECEDING REGIONAL JET UNTIL I BEGAN TAKING EVASIVE ACTION TO AVOID A COLLISION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.