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Attributes | |
ACN | 485520 |
Time | |
Date | 200009 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cyyz.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | Rain |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 485520 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After a late arrival due to WX and holding, we were ground stopped from yyz to cle. After a 1 hour 45 min delay, we began our taxi to runway 23 from gate. We followed several other aircraft to the departure end of runway 23. When we were ready for takeoff, tower informed us we needed to obtain permission to use the full length (displaced threshold) and we were past the runway hold short line anyway. The runway sign was not illuminated, it was nighttime and raining and we did taxi a few ft past the line. We were told to taxi to runway 23 via txwys B and H. Taxiway Q was not issued in our taxi clearance, however, we did not realize we needed prior permission to use the full length.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: E135 CREW AT CYYZ CROSS RWY HOLD SHORT LINES WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: AFTER A LATE ARR DUE TO WX AND HOLDING, WE WERE GND STOPPED FROM YYZ TO CLE. AFTER A 1 HR 45 MIN DELAY, WE BEGAN OUR TAXI TO RWY 23 FROM GATE. WE FOLLOWED SEVERAL OTHER ACFT TO THE DEP END OF RWY 23. WHEN WE WERE READY FOR TKOF, TWR INFORMED US WE NEEDED TO OBTAIN PERMISSION TO USE THE FULL LENGTH (DISPLACED THRESHOLD) AND WE WERE PAST THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINE ANYWAY. THE RWY SIGN WAS NOT ILLUMINATED, IT WAS NIGHTTIME AND RAINING AND WE DID TAXI A FEW FT PAST THE LINE. WE WERE TOLD TO TAXI TO RWY 23 VIA TXWYS B AND H. TXWY Q WAS NOT ISSUED IN OUR TAXI CLRNC, HOWEVER, WE DID NOT REALIZE WE NEEDED PRIOR PERMISSION TO USE THE FULL LENGTH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.