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Attributes | |
ACN | 485523 |
Time | |
Date | 200009 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mmmx.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 520 |
ASRS Report | 485523 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On sep/xa/00 at approximately XA15Z, air carrier flight X, holding short of runway 22 at taxiway F, received the following instruction: 'cross runway 32 at taxiway F, turn right at taxiway east, then right at taxiway double charlie, expedite across runway 22.' as we made our right turn onto taxiway east (about 45 degrees of turn), the controller said 'continue straight ahead.' having already made the turn, we taxied straight on taxiway east and cleared the runway. An airline on final went around as we cleared runway 22, sensing not enough separation. At taxiway double bravo (1 taxiway too soon) the captain started to turn right, but continued straight when reminded by the first officer to wait until taxiway double charlie. The ground controller, who had already told another pilot that he needed an alphabet lesson, asked us if we needed the same help. I told him no, we were taxiing just fine with our given instructions and repeated them back to him. He then told us to let him know when we thought we could handle it and he would switch us over to the tower frequency. At this time, the captain asked the controller for his initials and numbers. The takeoff was uneventful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGA TWR GND CTLR DISPLAYED IRRITATION TO FLC OF A B727 DURING TAXI OUT, AND SENT ONE ACFT AROUND DUE TO FLC'S HESITATION TO FOLLOW HIS COMPLEX TAXI INSTRUCTIONS.
Narrative: ON SEP/XA/00 AT APPROX XA15Z, ACR FLT X, HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 22 AT TXWY F, RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTION: 'CROSS RWY 32 AT TXWY F, TURN R AT TXWY E, THEN R AT TXWY DOUBLE CHARLIE, EXPEDITE ACROSS RWY 22.' AS WE MADE OUR R TURN ONTO TXWY E (ABOUT 45 DEGS OF TURN), THE CTLR SAID 'CONTINUE STRAIGHT AHEAD.' HAVING ALREADY MADE THE TURN, WE TAXIED STRAIGHT ON TXWY E AND CLRED THE RWY. AN AIRLINE ON FINAL WENT AROUND AS WE CLRED RWY 22, SENSING NOT ENOUGH SEPARATION. AT TXWY DOUBLE BRAVO (1 TXWY TOO SOON) THE CAPT STARTED TO TURN R, BUT CONTINUED STRAIGHT WHEN REMINDED BY THE FO TO WAIT UNTIL TXWY DOUBLE CHARLIE. THE GND CTLR, WHO HAD ALREADY TOLD ANOTHER PLT THAT HE NEEDED AN ALPHABET LESSON, ASKED US IF WE NEEDED THE SAME HELP. I TOLD HIM NO, WE WERE TAXIING JUST FINE WITH OUR GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS AND REPEATED THEM BACK TO HIM. HE THEN TOLD US TO LET HIM KNOW WHEN WE THOUGHT WE COULD HANDLE IT AND HE WOULD SWITCH US OVER TO THE TWR FREQ. AT THIS TIME, THE CAPT ASKED THE CTLR FOR HIS INITIALS AND NUMBERS. THE TKOF WAS UNEVENTFUL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.