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An ATR72 flight crew fails to follow an amended clearance route change when the controller is less than specific so far as the change in the STAR arrival procedure 50 mi southeast of dfw, tx.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 486100 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200009 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : cve.vor |
| State Reference | TX |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc tower : det.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | ATR 72 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | arrival star : dumpy |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | controller non radar : 2.5 controller radar : 2.5 flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 2200 flight time type : 900 |
| ASRS Report | 486100 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flying from jan to dfw. Clearance in jan said, 'cleared as filed.' filed was dumpy 2. Controller said, 'turn 275 degrees, join arrival northeast of glen rose.' we were cleared on dumpy so we joined the 298 degree radial direct to cowboy. Controller came back and said, 'no, join the glen rose 5 arrival,' which is 039 degrees off glen rose. She was very upset. Gave us a 90 degree left turn to join new arrival. She assumed we were on the glen rose 5, not the dumpy 2. I've learned to start asking to doublechk that both pilots and controllers are on the same page.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ATR72 FLC FAILS TO FOLLOW AN AMENDED CLRNC RTE CHANGE WHEN THE CTLR IS LESS THAN SPECIFIC SO FAR AS THE CHANGE IN THE STAR ARR PROC 50 MI SE OF DFW, TX.
Narrative: FLYING FROM JAN TO DFW. CLRNC IN JAN SAID, 'CLRED AS FILED.' FILED WAS DUMPY 2. CTLR SAID, 'TURN 275 DEGS, JOIN ARR NE OF GLEN ROSE.' WE WERE CLRED ON DUMPY SO WE JOINED THE 298 DEG RADIAL DIRECT TO COWBOY. CTLR CAME BACK AND SAID, 'NO, JOIN THE GLEN ROSE 5 ARR,' WHICH IS 039 DEGS OFF GLEN ROSE. SHE WAS VERY UPSET. GAVE US A 90 DEG L TURN TO JOIN NEW ARR. SHE ASSUMED WE WERE ON THE GLEN ROSE 5, NOT THE DUMPY 2. I'VE LEARNED TO START ASKING TO DOUBLECHK THAT BOTH PLTS AND CTLRS ARE ON THE SAME PAGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.