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A B767-200 flight crew has doubts about their takeoff clearance but objected to the timing of 'whither thou goest' from the tower controller on takeoff roll at jfk.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 486939 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200009 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : jfk.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial ground : takeoff roll |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : ns |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| ASRS Report | 486939 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | other Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On takeoff roll at jfk after we were cleared for takeoff, the tower made an unintelligible transmission to our flight. We were approaching V1 and the captain elected to continue takeoff and after safely airborne, the captain asked tower what they said to us during our takeoff roll and why. Their reply was for us to switch to departure control. This report is filed to alert them that they were possibly transmitting unintentionally, or if it was on purpose to highlight an unsafe radio call. Supplemental information from acn 486940: copilot and I are very sure we were cleared for takeoff but are filing as soon as possible just in case. Also upset on timing of transmission from tower with no clarification.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B767-200 FLC HAS DOUBTS ABOUT THEIR TKOF CLRNC BUT OBJECTED TO THE TIMING OF 'WHITHER THOU GOEST' FROM THE TWR CTLR ON TKOF ROLL AT JFK.
Narrative: ON TKOF ROLL AT JFK AFTER WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF, THE TWR MADE AN UNINTELLIGIBLE XMISSION TO OUR FLT. WE WERE APCHING V1 AND THE CAPT ELECTED TO CONTINUE TKOF AND AFTER SAFELY AIRBORNE, THE CAPT ASKED TWR WHAT THEY SAID TO US DURING OUR TKOF ROLL AND WHY. THEIR REPLY WAS FOR US TO SWITCH TO DEP CTL. THIS RPT IS FILED TO ALERT THEM THAT THEY WERE POSSIBLY XMITTING UNINTENTIONALLY, OR IF IT WAS ON PURPOSE TO HIGHLIGHT AN UNSAFE RADIO CALL. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 486940: COPLT AND I ARE VERY SURE WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF BUT ARE FILING ASAP JUST IN CASE. ALSO UPSET ON TIMING OF XMISSION FROM TWR WITH NO CLARIFICATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.