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Attributes | |
ACN | 487436 |
Time | |
Date | 200009 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : ffu.vortac |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl single value : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : s56.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors arrival star : spane |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 487436 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9700 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 486800 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllerb other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
While flying the spane arrival into slc, at approximately 11 DME south of ffu VOR we received instructions from slc arrival control to fly directly to chhip (a fix further along on the spane arrival, beyond ffu VOR). After a short pause the controller went on to say we should fly 335 degree heading, a vector for downwind. This information was all passed in a single transmission and we understood the vector was given subsequent to the direct routing as the controller realized we were a B727 and not area navigation equipped. As the PNF, I acknowledged the vector and we turned to 335 degree heading. This course took us east of the spane arrival so we began discussing the possibility that we were being vectored for runway 17, when the controller asked what heading we were flying. I responded 335 degrees as assigned. He stated we were cleared direct chhip then 335 degree heading for downwind. I responded we were a 'slant alpha' and had acknowledged a vector heading only. The controller then vectored us for an uneventful downwind to landing on slc runway 16R. In this era of glass cockpit aircraft, all parties need to ensure non area navigation aircraft are not confused with those aircraft so equipped.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CLRNC MISUNDERSTANDING RESULTS IN A TRACK DEV NEAR SALT LAKE.
Narrative: WHILE FLYING THE SPANE ARR INTO SLC, AT APPROX 11 DME S OF FFU VOR WE RECEIVED INSTRUCTIONS FROM SLC ARR CTL TO FLY DIRECTLY TO CHHIP (A FIX FURTHER ALONG ON THE SPANE ARR, BEYOND FFU VOR). AFTER A SHORT PAUSE THE CTLR WENT ON TO SAY WE SHOULD FLY 335 DEG HDG, A VECTOR FOR DOWNWIND. THIS INFO WAS ALL PASSED IN A SINGLE XMISSION AND WE UNDERSTOOD THE VECTOR WAS GIVEN SUBSEQUENT TO THE DIRECT ROUTING AS THE CTLR REALIZED WE WERE A B727 AND NOT AREA NAV EQUIPPED. AS THE PNF, I ACKNOWLEDGED THE VECTOR AND WE TURNED TO 335 DEG HDG. THIS COURSE TOOK US E OF THE SPANE ARR SO WE BEGAN DISCUSSING THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE WERE BEING VECTORED FOR RWY 17, WHEN THE CTLR ASKED WHAT HEADING WE WERE FLYING. I RESPONDED 335 DEGS AS ASSIGNED. HE STATED WE WERE CLRED DIRECT CHHIP THEN 335 DEG HDG FOR DOWNWIND. I RESPONDED WE WERE A 'SLANT ALPHA' AND HAD ACKNOWLEDGED A VECTOR HEADING ONLY. THE CTLR THEN VECTORED US FOR AN UNEVENTFUL DOWNWIND TO LNDG ON SLC RWY 16R. IN THIS ERA OF GLASS COCKPIT ACFT, ALL PARTIES NEED TO ENSURE NON AREA NAV ACFT ARE NOT CONFUSED WITH THOSE ACFT SO EQUIPPED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.