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A B757 PIC tells of having outdated navigation charts on trip departure from domicile to phx. Later, in phx, he learns from a flight attendant that there is a new set of runways at phx, az.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 487520 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200010 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phx.airport |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 487520 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : cab#4 |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
This sequence originated from lga on oct/wed/00. The latest part ii revision out and available was for sep/xa/00. My mailbox is at lga and there were no later part 2 revisions as of when I left operations to begin my trip. This morning from phx, as I was preparing for my flight, I was surprised to learn that there was now a new runway at phx. A flight attendant told me. That was the first word I had about it. There was nothing about it on my flight plan paperwork or in any of the charts I had available to me. The only other hint I had was in the FMS software, revised oct/thu/00 that showed there was now runway 7L/right runways at phx. I had all the revisions that were available to me, but that was not good enough, since the revision with the new phx runways were out, and we did not have them -- not even NOTAMS mentioning it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757 PIC TELLS OF HAVING OUTDATED NAV CHARTS ON TRIP DEP FROM DOMICILE TO PHX. LATER, IN PHX, HE LEARNS FROM A FLT ATTENDANT THAT THERE IS A NEW SET OF RWYS AT PHX, AZ.
Narrative: THIS SEQUENCE ORIGINATED FROM LGA ON OCT/WED/00. THE LATEST PART II REVISION OUT AND AVAILABLE WAS FOR SEP/XA/00. MY MAILBOX IS AT LGA AND THERE WERE NO LATER PART 2 REVISIONS AS OF WHEN I LEFT OPS TO BEGIN MY TRIP. THIS MORNING FROM PHX, AS I WAS PREPARING FOR MY FLT, I WAS SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT THERE WAS NOW A NEW RWY AT PHX. A FLT ATTENDANT TOLD ME. THAT WAS THE FIRST WORD I HAD ABOUT IT. THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT IT ON MY FLT PLAN PAPERWORK OR IN ANY OF THE CHARTS I HAD AVAILABLE TO ME. THE ONLY OTHER HINT I HAD WAS IN THE FMS SOFTWARE, REVISED OCT/THU/00 THAT SHOWED THERE WAS NOW RWY 7L/R RWYS AT PHX. I HAD ALL THE REVISIONS THAT WERE AVAILABLE TO ME, BUT THAT WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH, SINCE THE REVISION WITH THE NEW PHX RWYS WERE OUT, AND WE DID NOT HAVE THEM -- NOT EVEN NOTAMS MENTIONING IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.