<< >> NASA ASRS Report 489329, October 2000

Approach controller at sav believes controllers at a nearby milfac are not using correct flight plan and coordination procedures.

Attributes
ACN	489329
Time
Date	200010
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : sav.tracon
State Reference	GA
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : sav.tower
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Qualification	controller : radar
ASRS Report	489329
Person 2
Affiliation	government : military
Function	controller : radar
Qualification	controller : military
Events
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Situations
Airspace Structure	class e : sav.e

Narrative:

Current procedures with facsfac jacksonville (sealord) are both inadequate and unenforced. Fighter flts returning from sealord are not tagged, or cleared properly by sea lord personnel. Aircraft on delay flight plans are 'frozen' using fdio hold messages, then when the flight returns it is not accessible to sav approach. If the hold message is canceled, the delay commences and automation is approximately 1 hour behind. For aircraft on flight plans out, with a second flight plan for return, are not put on return flight plan, so again automation and sav approach cannot access data track of flight plan information. Non-automated handoffs, combined with sealord's in ability to keep these aircraft safely within their airspace, mandates manual coordination, usually at a high level of panic to ensure the safety of civil aircraft along the coastline and on V1 airway.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: APCH CTLR AT SAV BELIEVES CTLRS AT A NEARBY MILFAC ARE NOT USING CORRECT FLT PLAN AND COORD PROCS.

Narrative: CURRENT PROCS WITH FACSFAC JACKSONVILLE (SEALORD) ARE BOTH INADEQUATE AND UNENFORCED. FIGHTER FLTS RETURNING FROM SEALORD ARE NOT TAGGED, OR CLRED PROPERLY BY SEA LORD PERSONNEL. ACFT ON DELAY FLT PLANS ARE 'FROZEN' USING FDIO HOLD MESSAGES, THEN WHEN THE FLT RETURNS IT IS NOT ACCESSIBLE TO SAV APCH. IF THE HOLD MESSAGE IS CANCELED, THE DELAY COMMENCES AND AUTOMATION IS APPROX 1 HR BEHIND. FOR ACFT ON FLT PLANS OUT, WITH A SECOND FLT PLAN FOR RETURN, ARE NOT PUT ON RETURN FLT PLAN, SO AGAIN AUTOMATION AND SAV APCH CANNOT ACCESS DATA TRACK OF FLT PLAN INFO. NON-AUTOMATED HDOFS, COMBINED WITH SEALORD'S IN ABILITY TO KEEP THESE ACFT SAFELY WITHIN THEIR AIRSPACE, MANDATES MANUAL COORD, USUALLY AT A HIGH LEVEL OF PANIC TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF CIVIL ACFT ALONG THE COASTLINE AND ON V1 AIRWAY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.