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Attributes | |
ACN | 489509 |
Time | |
Date | 200009 |
Day | Sun |
Place | |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 14500 msl bound upper : 16500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : mmex.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Chancellor 414A & C414 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : mmex.artcc |
Make Model Name | Super King Air 300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 45 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 489509 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : skywatch alert other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 40 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was at cruise in my C414A at 16500 ft from loreto, mexico, to san diego brown field. I was given a traffic alert by my sky watch and saw on the display traffic at 5 O'clock position, at +200 ft, about 2 mi behind. I disconnected the autoplt and began an immediate descent. I was then startled to see how quickly the traffic was gaining on us and increased pitch down. I was perplexed (and frightened!) to see the traffic continuing to approach very closely at +200 ft per the display. When a last attempt to increase our descent rate failed to increase the indicated +200 ft differential, I kept my same pitch down and veered to the right. I the saw a BE200-300 series king air out my left side window and short ways below and ahead of us in a steep dive away from us toward 10 O'clock position, from our original heading. We had descended about 700 ft, the king air probably about 1500 ft. My passenger had seen the king air pass very closely from above to the right behind us to below and in front to the left of us. Upon reflection: 1) we were GPS direct mmlt-ksdm, a likely route for others, although the king air seemed to be crossing our course from behind right to left ahead. 2) we were at 16500 ft correct VFR altitude for our heading -- a likely altitude for faster planes. 3) when the other pilot saw us while approaching fast from behind he may have decided to pass beneath us, even though he was initially above us so as to better keep us in sight and would have then been surprised when we began a rapid descent to avoid his approach. He should have deviated up. Pilots should be warned to always deviate away from other traffic in anticipation that the other aircraft might respond to a TCASII warning and suddenly alter course. In this case our sky watch would have saved us had the other pilot never seen us, but when the other pilot decided to descend from above to pass below us while overtaking us with his +/-100 KT higher speed, we nearly collided when we dove suddenly in response to the traffic alert.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C414A PVT PLT HAS AN NMAC WITH AN OVERTAKING BE30 IN CLASS E AIRSPACE NW OF GRN, MEXICO.
Narrative: I WAS AT CRUISE IN MY C414A AT 16500 FT FROM LORETO, MEXICO, TO SAN DIEGO BROWN FIELD. I WAS GIVEN A TFC ALERT BY MY SKY WATCH AND SAW ON THE DISPLAY TFC AT 5 O'CLOCK POS, AT +200 FT, ABOUT 2 MI BEHIND. I DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT AND BEGAN AN IMMEDIATE DSCNT. I WAS THEN STARTLED TO SEE HOW QUICKLY THE TFC WAS GAINING ON US AND INCREASED PITCH DOWN. I WAS PERPLEXED (AND FRIGHTENED!) TO SEE THE TFC CONTINUING TO APCH VERY CLOSELY AT +200 FT PER THE DISPLAY. WHEN A LAST ATTEMPT TO INCREASE OUR DSCNT RATE FAILED TO INCREASE THE INDICATED +200 FT DIFFERENTIAL, I KEPT MY SAME PITCH DOWN AND VEERED TO THE R. I THE SAW A BE200-300 SERIES KING AIR OUT MY L SIDE WINDOW AND SHORT WAYS BELOW AND AHEAD OF US IN A STEEP DIVE AWAY FROM US TOWARD 10 O'CLOCK POS, FROM OUR ORIGINAL HEADING. WE HAD DSNDED ABOUT 700 FT, THE KING AIR PROBABLY ABOUT 1500 FT. MY PAX HAD SEEN THE KING AIR PASS VERY CLOSELY FROM ABOVE TO THE R BEHIND US TO BELOW AND IN FRONT TO THE L OF US. UPON REFLECTION: 1) WE WERE GPS DIRECT MMLT-KSDM, A LIKELY RTE FOR OTHERS, ALTHOUGH THE KING AIR SEEMED TO BE XING OUR COURSE FROM BEHIND R TO L AHEAD. 2) WE WERE AT 16500 FT CORRECT VFR ALT FOR OUR HEADING -- A LIKELY ALT FOR FASTER PLANES. 3) WHEN THE OTHER PLT SAW US WHILE APCHING FAST FROM BEHIND HE MAY HAVE DECIDED TO PASS BENEATH US, EVEN THOUGH HE WAS INITIALLY ABOVE US SO AS TO BETTER KEEP US IN SIGHT AND WOULD HAVE THEN BEEN SURPRISED WHEN WE BEGAN A RAPID DSCNT TO AVOID HIS APCH. HE SHOULD HAVE DEVIATED UP. PLTS SHOULD BE WARNED TO ALWAYS DEVIATE AWAY FROM OTHER TFC IN ANTICIPATION THAT THE OTHER ACFT MIGHT RESPOND TO A TCASII WARNING AND SUDDENLY ALTER COURSE. IN THIS CASE OUR SKY WATCH WOULD HAVE SAVED US HAD THE OTHER PLT NEVER SEEN US, BUT WHEN THE OTHER PLT DECIDED TO DSND FROM ABOVE TO PASS BELOW US WHILE OVERTAKING US WITH HIS +/-100 KT HIGHER SPD, WE NEARLY COLLIDED WHEN WE DOVE SUDDENLY IN RESPONSE TO THE TFC ALERT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.