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Attributes | |
ACN | 489544 |
Time | |
Date | 200010 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl.airport |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : stl.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 10 |
ASRS Report | 489544 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I am a new captain in the E145, although this event technically occurred when I was the sic, because I was receiving IOE from a check airman. I was his second IOE person and we both were relatively new to the stl airport. In addition, I only had about 10 hours in the aircraft. He was showing me visual approach and landing, when this happened. We were cleared for the visual by approach and started toward the runway. After that he was busy showing and describing his technique to me and we both got lost concentrating on the approach. After we landed, we realized that the tower frequency wasn't in the box. We switched to ground and taxied in. Tower or ground never asked us to contact them. I believe that we were too focused on one thing. We were very aware of where we were and the aircraft around us due to the strict spacing requirements at stl. Unfortunately our situational awareness obviously fell short when it came to communications. This also showed poor CRM between the two of us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: E145 CREW LANDED AT STL WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: I AM A NEW CAPT IN THE E145, ALTHOUGH THIS EVENT TECHNICALLY OCCURRED WHEN I WAS THE SIC, BECAUSE I WAS RECEIVING IOE FROM A CHK AIRMAN. I WAS HIS SECOND IOE PERSON AND WE BOTH WERE RELATIVELY NEW TO THE STL ARPT. IN ADDITION, I ONLY HAD ABOUT 10 HRS IN THE ACFT. HE WAS SHOWING ME VISUAL APCH AND LNDG, WHEN THIS HAPPENED. WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL BY APCH AND STARTED TOWARD THE RWY. AFTER THAT HE WAS BUSY SHOWING AND DESCRIBING HIS TECHNIQUE TO ME AND WE BOTH GOT LOST CONCENTRATING ON THE APCH. AFTER WE LANDED, WE REALIZED THAT THE TWR FREQ WASN'T IN THE BOX. WE SWITCHED TO GND AND TAXIED IN. TWR OR GND NEVER ASKED US TO CONTACT THEM. I BELIEVE THAT WE WERE TOO FOCUSED ON ONE THING. WE WERE VERY AWARE OF WHERE WE WERE AND THE ACFT AROUND US DUE TO THE STRICT SPACING REQUIREMENTS AT STL. UNFORTUNATELY OUR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS OBVIOUSLY FELL SHORT WHEN IT CAME TO COMS. THIS ALSO SHOWED POOR CRM BTWN THE TWO OF US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.