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Attributes | |
ACN | 489665 |
Time | |
Date | 200010 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : lax.vortac |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 24r |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 24r |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 4 controller radar : 13 |
ASRS Report | 489665 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach instruction : instructor |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : wake turbulence non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 27000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Air carrier Y was turned on for an ILS runway 24R 4 1/2 mi behind a heavy B767. Minimum separation is 5 mi. I called the handoff position for ar-2. Ar-2 (stadium) was working both aircraft. After air carrier Y was directly behind the B767, visual separation was applied. Visual separation was applied after the loss of in-trail separation had occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR CLAIMS ADJACENT SECTOR APPLIED VISUAL SEPARATION AFTER CTLR LOST 5 MI WAKE TURB SPACING BTWN A B737 FOLLOWING A B767.
Narrative: ACR Y WAS TURNED ON FOR AN ILS RWY 24R 4 1/2 MI BEHIND A HVY B767. MINIMUM SEPARATION IS 5 MI. I CALLED THE HDOF POS FOR AR-2. AR-2 (STADIUM) WAS WORKING BOTH ACFT. AFTER ACR Y WAS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE B767, VISUAL SEPARATION WAS APPLIED. VISUAL SEPARATION WAS APPLIED AFTER THE LOSS OF IN-TRAIL SEPARATION HAD OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.