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Flight engineer on a B727 concerned that his engine run-up after pushback on ramp was not in accordance with part 121 rules since he signed off the aircraft logbook as an a&P mechanic with passenger aboard after pushback.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 489794 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200010 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : srq.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground : pushback ground other : holding on ramp |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : private technician : powerplant technician : airframe |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 489794 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance Maintenance Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was required by my company to perform an engine run-up on the ramp in accordance with our maintenance manual, with passenger onboard while operating under far 121. I then signed off a logbook entry, the engine run-up was normal. I feel that there may be a conflict that occupying a seat as a crew member (pfe) and using my a&P certificate to sign off an entry in the logbook after pushback under far 121, as a company mechanic. It is clear to me that the far's are vague in this area. Clear guidance is needed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FE ON A B727 CONCERNED THAT HIS ENG RUN-UP AFTER PUSHBACK ON RAMP WAS NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH PART 121 RULES SINCE HE SIGNED OFF THE ACFT LOGBOOK AS AN A&P MECH WITH PAX ABOARD AFTER PUSHBACK.
Narrative: I WAS REQUIRED BY MY COMPANY TO PERFORM AN ENG RUN-UP ON THE RAMP IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR MAINT MANUAL, WITH PAX ONBOARD WHILE OPERATING UNDER FAR 121. I THEN SIGNED OFF A LOGBOOK ENTRY, THE ENG RUN-UP WAS NORMAL. I FEEL THAT THERE MAY BE A CONFLICT THAT OCCUPYING A SEAT AS A CREW MEMBER (PFE) AND USING MY A&P CERTIFICATE TO SIGN OFF AN ENTRY IN THE LOGBOOK AFTER PUSHBACK UNDER FAR 121, AS A COMPANY MECH. IT IS CLR TO ME THAT THE FAR'S ARE VAGUE IN THIS AREA. CLR GUIDANCE IS NEEDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.