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Attributes | |
ACN | 489891 |
Time | |
Date | 200010 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : spa.vortac |
State Reference | SC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : gsp.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 489891 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to original clearance |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 750 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
Climbing out of gsp airport, clear night, TCASII alert at about 8000 ft. We were under control of gsp departure control, cleared 040 degree heading to 10000 ft. At about 9000 ft monitor vertical speed alert became red resolution, descend now. We dropped back to about 8500 ft. Traffic passed over top of us at about 9000-9500 ft. TCASII indicated +300 ft at closest point. Departure control did not call out traffic and apparently was not talking to this unknown aircraft. Other aircraft seemed to make no course changes to avoid us. We had beacons, navigation lights and side turn off spot lights on. We could not see other aircraft until very close due to ground lights. Watch out for clear nights! If IFR this probably would not have happened. I wonder if unknown aircraft even saw us. Without TCASII the outcome might have been different.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A TCASII RA PROVIDES SEPARATION BTWN IFR AND APPARENT VFR TFC ON A CLR NIGHT NEAR SPA VOR.
Narrative: CLBING OUT OF GSP ARPT, CLR NIGHT, TCASII ALERT AT ABOUT 8000 FT. WE WERE UNDER CTL OF GSP DEP CTL, CLRED 040 DEG HDG TO 10000 FT. AT ABOUT 9000 FT MONITOR VERT SPD ALERT BECAME RED RESOLUTION, DSND NOW. WE DROPPED BACK TO ABOUT 8500 FT. TFC PASSED OVER TOP OF US AT ABOUT 9000-9500 FT. TCASII INDICATED +300 FT AT CLOSEST POINT. DEP CTL DID NOT CALL OUT TFC AND APPARENTLY WAS NOT TALKING TO THIS UNKNOWN ACFT. OTHER ACFT SEEMED TO MAKE NO COURSE CHANGES TO AVOID US. WE HAD BEACONS, NAV LIGHTS AND SIDE TURN OFF SPOT LIGHTS ON. WE COULD NOT SEE OTHER ACFT UNTIL VERY CLOSE DUE TO GND LIGHTS. WATCH OUT FOR CLR NIGHTS! IF IFR THIS PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. I WONDER IF UNKNOWN ACFT EVEN SAW US. WITHOUT TCASII THE OUTCOME MIGHT HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.