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Attributes | |
ACN | 528792 |
Time | |
Date | 200110 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : pvd.vortac |
State Reference | RI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pvd.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pvd.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR 72 |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 528792 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
In VMC. Departure controller provides TA of an aircraft at our 10 O'clock position. Asked if we had aircraft in sight. We responded that we did. Departure controller cleared us with 'maintain visual separation on that aircraft, climb to 10000 ft. Traffic has you in sight.' we were at 8000 ft MSL. I estimated that traffic was initially about 5 NM. I mistakenly thought we were about parallel. I began a climb at about 1000 FPM, on autoplt. I then saw that I was on intercept course with traffic. In order to obtain greater vertical separation, I increased climb rate to 2500 FPM. Almost immediately I felt that we were not going to have adequate vertical and horizontal separation. I disconnected autoplt and began steep climb to get vertical separation. We got RA on TCASII about this time telling us to descend. We were about 8600 MSL and traffic was at 9000 ft MSL. I continued to climb since I was already in a steep climb and I could obtain vertical separation faster in a climb than if I pushed the aircraft over to descend. I estimate that the air carrier passed below us just as we were leveling at 10000 ft. The other aircraft was behind us at this point.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 CAPT COMPLAINS THAT IFR SEPARATION LOST AFTER DEP CTLR PROVIDES TA OF AN ATR72 AND CLRED RPTR TO CLB AND MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION WITH THE OTHER ACFT WHO HAD RPTR IN SIGHT.
Narrative: IN VMC. DEP CTLR PROVIDES TA OF AN ACFT AT OUR 10 O'CLOCK POS. ASKED IF WE HAD ACFT IN SIGHT. WE RESPONDED THAT WE DID. DEP CTLR CLRED US WITH 'MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION ON THAT ACFT, CLB TO 10000 FT. TFC HAS YOU IN SIGHT.' WE WERE AT 8000 FT MSL. I ESTIMATED THAT TFC WAS INITIALLY ABOUT 5 NM. I MISTAKENLY THOUGHT WE WERE ABOUT PARALLEL. I BEGAN A CLB AT ABOUT 1000 FPM, ON AUTOPLT. I THEN SAW THAT I WAS ON INTERCEPT COURSE WITH TFC. IN ORDER TO OBTAIN GREATER VERT SEPARATION, I INCREASED CLB RATE TO 2500 FPM. ALMOST IMMEDIATELY I FELT THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE ADEQUATE VERT AND HORIZ SEPARATION. I DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT AND BEGAN STEEP CLB TO GET VERT SEPARATION. WE GOT RA ON TCASII ABOUT THIS TIME TELLING US TO DSND. WE WERE ABOUT 8600 MSL AND TFC WAS AT 9000 FT MSL. I CONTINUED TO CLB SINCE I WAS ALREADY IN A STEEP CLB AND I COULD OBTAIN VERT SEPARATION FASTER IN A CLB THAN IF I PUSHED THE ACFT OVER TO DSND. I ESTIMATE THAT THE ACR PASSED BELOW US JUST AS WE WERE LEVELING AT 10000 FT. THE OTHER ACFT WAS BEHIND US AT THIS POINT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.