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Attributes | |
ACN | 491929 |
Time | |
Date | 200011 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : eau.vortac |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : eau clare 4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : eauclare 4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 491929 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other controllerb other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA Flight Crew Human Performance Company ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Company |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Given clearance from 35000 ft to 24000 ft, pilot's discretion. Several other flts with similar call signs and a controller receiving training, by voice coming through telling him things to say. Our flight was #abcd, a ferry flight. We kept hearing a call to abce, bce, etc. Abce was giving clearance to cross twinz on eau clare four arrival at 11000 ft. We were pilot's discretion to 24000 ft. At eau VOR we were questioned on our altitude. Reply was 28000 ft and descending. At 27500 ft, 15 seconds later, asked again our altitude. Then given a turn north, east, south, then west to rejoin with descent clearance to 14000 ft, then finally 11000 ft at twinz. Several aircraft were using similar call signs, not only ours, but other airlines. We got caught up in the confusion without a clearance for our call sign. The controller never questioned us but just gave us vectors to get down. He had his hands full at this time, and either we missed his descent clearance by the call sign confusion or it was never issued to our call sign. At least we never heard one. Certain times of the day are worse than others, but I would think we could come up with a numbering system that would take away from the chances of this happening. Similar call signs are always going to be out there, but they should not be at the same airline.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC9 CREW AND ZMP CTLRS WERE CONFUSED BY ACFT WITH SIMILAR CALL SIGN.
Narrative: GIVEN CLRNC FROM 35000 FT TO 24000 FT, PLT'S DISCRETION. SEVERAL OTHER FLTS WITH SIMILAR CALL SIGNS AND A CTLR RECEIVING TRAINING, BY VOICE COMING THROUGH TELLING HIM THINGS TO SAY. OUR FLT WAS #ABCD, A FERRY FLT. WE KEPT HEARING A CALL TO ABCE, BCE, ETC. ABCE WAS GIVING CLRNC TO CROSS TWINZ ON EAU CLARE FOUR ARR AT 11000 FT. WE WERE PLT'S DISCRETION TO 24000 FT. AT EAU VOR WE WERE QUESTIONED ON OUR ALT. REPLY WAS 28000 FT AND DSNDING. AT 27500 FT, 15 SECONDS LATER, ASKED AGAIN OUR ALT. THEN GIVEN A TURN N, E, S, THEN W TO REJOIN WITH DSCNT CLRNC TO 14000 FT, THEN FINALLY 11000 FT AT TWINZ. SEVERAL ACFT WERE USING SIMILAR CALL SIGNS, NOT ONLY OURS, BUT OTHER AIRLINES. WE GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE CONFUSION WITHOUT A CLRNC FOR OUR CALL SIGN. THE CTLR NEVER QUESTIONED US BUT JUST GAVE US VECTORS TO GET DOWN. HE HAD HIS HANDS FULL AT THIS TIME, AND EITHER WE MISSED HIS DSCNT CLRNC BY THE CALL SIGN CONFUSION OR IT WAS NEVER ISSUED TO OUR CALL SIGN. AT LEAST WE NEVER HEARD ONE. CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY ARE WORSE THAN OTHERS, BUT I WOULD THINK WE COULD COME UP WITH A NUMBERING SYS THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THE CHANCES OF THIS HAPPENING. SIMILAR CALL SIGNS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE OUT THERE, BUT THEY SHOULD NOT BE AT THE SAME AIRLINE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.