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DHC8 pilot landing runway 31 at lga is concerned about spacing on final, crossing departures, and frequency congestion.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 491933 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200011 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 31 |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10500 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 491933 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : landed as precaution none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Localizer 31 approach to runway 31 at lga in visual conditions departures were occurring on runway 04. Local control was very busy trying to sequence and space arrivals on runway 31 and departures on runway 04. On a 2 mi final we were told to expect landing clearance on short final. We were gaining on aircraft in front of us and adjusting speed. The frequency was very congested. We may have landed without a clearance. Contributing factors: busy frequency, lifting of slot restrictions at lga, concern over recent practice of clearing aircraft for takeoff on runway while aircraft are touching down on runway 31 with no request or the ability to hold short of runway 4.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DHC8 PLT LNDG RWY 31 AT LGA IS CONCERNED ABOUT SPACING ON FINAL, XING DEPS, AND FREQ CONGESTION.
Narrative: LOC 31 APCH TO RWY 31 AT LGA IN VISUAL CONDITIONS DEPS WERE OCCURRING ON RWY 04. LOCAL CTL WAS VERY BUSY TRYING TO SEQUENCE AND SPACE ARRIVALS ON RWY 31 AND DEPS ON RWY 04. ON A 2 MI FINAL WE WERE TOLD TO EXPECT LNDG CLRNC ON SHORT FINAL. WE WERE GAINING ON ACFT IN FRONT OF US AND ADJUSTING SPEED. THE FREQ WAS VERY CONGESTED. WE MAY HAVE LANDED WITHOUT A CLRNC. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: BUSY FREQ, LIFTING OF SLOT RESTRICTIONS AT LGA, CONCERN OVER RECENT PRACTICE OF CLRING ACFT FOR TKOF ON RWY WHILE ACFT ARE TOUCHING DOWN ON RWY 31 WITH NO REQUEST OR THE ABILITY TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 4.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.