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Attributes | |
ACN | 493060 |
Time | |
Date | 200011 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : cvg.vortac |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 55 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 55 |
ASRS Report | 493060 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 493059 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
After departing cvg and being radar vectored from a 185 degree heading to a 270 degree heading and climbing, at 8000 ft MSL, we received a TA that lead to an RA. Crew acted immediately to RA and at same time advising ATC of the situation. At 8600 ft MSL RA was resolved, and we leveled at 9000 ft MSL and a turn assigned of 310 degrees to join on course. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated they had departed runway 18R and were being vectored west. Just before the TCASII alert, ATC issued traffic at 5 O'clock position and 5 mi. The reporter believes the company CL65 had departed off runway 27 and caught up with them. He said they were only cleared to 7000 ft, but the TCASII RA took them up to 8600 ft. A second ATC voice was heard on the frequency which the pilot believes was possibly a supervisor or an instructor controller. He said the frequency had started to get very busy about the time of the incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 CL65 ACR'S BEING HANDLED BY CVG APCH CONVERGED RESULTING IN A LOSS OF SEPARATION.
Narrative: AFTER DEPARTING CVG AND BEING RADAR VECTORED FROM A 185 DEG HDG TO A 270 DEG HDG AND CLBING, AT 8000 FT MSL, WE RECEIVED A TA THAT LEAD TO AN RA. CREW ACTED IMMEDIATELY TO RA AND AT SAME TIME ADVISING ATC OF THE SIT. AT 8600 FT MSL RA WAS RESOLVED, AND WE LEVELED AT 9000 FT MSL AND A TURN ASSIGNED OF 310 DEGS TO JOIN ON COURSE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THEY HAD DEPARTED RWY 18R AND WERE BEING VECTORED W. JUST BEFORE THE TCASII ALERT, ATC ISSUED TFC AT 5 O'CLOCK POS AND 5 MI. THE RPTR BELIEVES THE COMPANY CL65 HAD DEPARTED OFF RWY 27 AND CAUGHT UP WITH THEM. HE SAID THEY WERE ONLY CLRED TO 7000 FT, BUT THE TCASII RA TOOK THEM UP TO 8600 FT. A SECOND ATC VOICE WAS HEARD ON THE FREQ WHICH THE PLT BELIEVES WAS POSSIBLY A SUPVR OR AN INSTRUCTOR CTLR. HE SAID THE FREQ HAD STARTED TO GET VERY BUSY ABOUT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.