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Attributes | |
ACN | 494221 |
Time | |
Date | 200012 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sbgr.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4700 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : tuca.2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 494221 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 494270 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While flying the tuca arrival into gru, we were at 6000 ft coming from the north. After making the turn to downwind to the west, I began a descent to 4700 ft in VMC. We should have waited until the turn onto base before beginning the descent to 4700 ft. We noticed the mistake at about the time to turn to base. Sao paulo approach did not mention anything and there was no other traffic in the area and no gpwas warnings were made. We continued and landed uneventfully. We observed on the charts later that the box stating the 6000 ft restr was positioned well above the rest of the chart information. All 3 of the pilots missed the restr. The flight was at the end of a 10 1/2 hour all-nighter. Maybe another example of back-side of the clock flying combined with a procedure that may normally not be a problem turned into a potential problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT EXCURSION ON TUCA 2 ARR TO GRU, BRAZIL.
Narrative: WHILE FLYING THE TUCA ARR INTO GRU, WE WERE AT 6000 FT COMING FROM THE N. AFTER MAKING THE TURN TO DOWNWIND TO THE W, I BEGAN A DSCNT TO 4700 FT IN VMC. WE SHOULD HAVE WAITED UNTIL THE TURN ONTO BASE BEFORE BEGINNING THE DSCNT TO 4700 FT. WE NOTICED THE MISTAKE AT ABOUT THE TIME TO TURN TO BASE. SAO PAULO APCH DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING AND THERE WAS NO OTHER TFC IN THE AREA AND NO GPWAS WARNINGS WERE MADE. WE CONTINUED AND LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. WE OBSERVED ON THE CHARTS LATER THAT THE BOX STATING THE 6000 FT RESTR WAS POSITIONED WELL ABOVE THE REST OF THE CHART INFO. ALL 3 OF THE PLTS MISSED THE RESTR. THE FLT WAS AT THE END OF A 10 1/2 HR ALL-NIGHTER. MAYBE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF BACK-SIDE OF THE CLOCK FLYING COMBINED WITH A PROC THAT MAY NORMALLY NOT BE A PROB TURNED INTO A POTENTIAL PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.