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Attributes | |
ACN | 561344 |
Time | |
Date | 200209 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : l30.tracon |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12400 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : skbr1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9800 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 561344 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Established on the skebr 1 arrival at 13000 ft, I went off frequency to obtain the most current las ATIS. Upon my return to communication #1, I stated that I was 'back on communication #1.' captain requested me to set 12000 ft in the altitude alerter because the next fix required 12000 ft crossing restr. We started our descent to 12000 ft. At about 12400 ft, ATC asked if 'he' had cleared us to 12000 ft or did 'we' do it on our own. I stated that we were cleared the skebr 1 and that we were complying with the text restrs. ATC indicated that the last altitude clearance was to maintain 13000 ft. I usually listen to both radios when obtaining ATIS, but the chatter on communication #1 prevented me from hearing the las vegas ATIS clearly. If I had been monitoring the #1 communication, I may have been able to support the captain on the altitude clearance and prevented this altitude deviation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ALT EXCURSION ON THE SKEBR RNAV 1 ARR TO LAS, NV.
Narrative: ESTABLISHED ON THE SKEBR 1 ARR AT 13000 FT, I WENT OFF FREQ TO OBTAIN THE MOST CURRENT LAS ATIS. UPON MY RETURN TO COM #1, I STATED THAT I WAS 'BACK ON COM #1.' CAPT REQUESTED ME TO SET 12000 FT IN THE ALT ALERTER BECAUSE THE NEXT FIX REQUIRED 12000 FT XING RESTR. WE STARTED OUR DSCNT TO 12000 FT. AT ABOUT 12400 FT, ATC ASKED IF 'HE' HAD CLRED US TO 12000 FT OR DID 'WE' DO IT ON OUR OWN. I STATED THAT WE WERE CLRED THE SKEBR 1 AND THAT WE WERE COMPLYING WITH THE TEXT RESTRS. ATC INDICATED THAT THE LAST ALT CLRNC WAS TO MAINTAIN 13000 FT. I USUALLY LISTEN TO BOTH RADIOS WHEN OBTAINING ATIS, BUT THE CHATTER ON COM #1 PREVENTED ME FROM HEARING THE LAS VEGAS ATIS CLRLY. IF I HAD BEEN MONITORING THE #1 COM, I MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SUPPORT THE CAPT ON THE ALT CLRNC AND PREVENTED THIS ALTDEV.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.