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Attributes | |
ACN | 494300 |
Time | |
Date | 200011 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phl.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5700 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 494300 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 4050 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 493485 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft was on autoplt. At leveloff at 6000 ft, aircraft was also in a 25 degree bank, aircraft was slowing from 250 KTS to 210 KTS and slats were being extended. Autoplt was unable to handle all of these inputs at once and as leveloff commenced, aircraft descended 250 ft below 6000 ft. Altitude capture was illuminated on flight management advisory panel. As the aircraft descended below 6000 ft, altitude hold was selected as an attempt to keep aircraft from going any lower. Unfortunately, aircraft was still descending so altitude hold was selected again and autoplt was disconnected to begin a manual climb up to 6000 ft. I believe that the aircraft only went 250-300 ft below 6000 ft and correction was made immediately. We checked TCASII to see if we may have infringed on another aircraft's airspace and saw no conflict on the TCASII screen. ATC controller asked us to confirm that we were leveling at 6000 ft. Supplemental information from acn 493485: on a vector of 360 degrees, phl approach gave us a vector to 030 degrees and advised us to slow from 250 KIAS to 210 KIAS. As the aircraft approached 6000 ft and turn rollout, we noticed the autoplt wasn't slowing its rate of descent for altitude hold. I advised the captain. He acknowledged he was aware of it. Lesson learned: MD88 autoplt may not handle turning, slowing, and leveloff simultaneously as well as it should.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD88 FLT DSNDS 300 FT BELOW ITS ASSIGNED ALT DURING A LEVELOFF, A SPD REDUCTION AND A 30 DEG BANK WHILE EXTENDING FLAPS/SLATS 10 MI S OF PHL, PA.
Narrative: ACFT WAS ON AUTOPLT. AT LEVELOFF at 6000 ft, ACFT WAS ALSO IN A 25 DEG BANK, ACFT WAS SLOWING FROM 250 KTS TO 210 KTS AND SLATS WERE BEING EXTENDED. AUTOPLT WAS UNABLE TO HANDLE ALL OF THESE INPUTS AT ONCE AND AS LEVELOFF COMMENCED, ACFT DSNDED 250 FT BELOW 6000 FT. ALT CAPTURE WAS ILLUMINATED ON FLT MGMNT ADVISORY PANEL. AS THE ACFT DSNDED BELOW 6000 FT, ALT HOLD WAS SELECTED AS AN ATTEMPT TO KEEP ACFT FROM GOING ANY LOWER. UNFORTUNATELY, ACFT WAS STILL DSNDING SO ALT HOLD WAS SELECTED AGAIN AND AUTOPLT WAS DISCONNECTED TO BEGIN A MANUAL CLB UP TO 6000 FT. I BELIEVE THAT THE ACFT ONLY WENT 250-300 FT BELOW 6000 FT AND CORRECTION WAS MADE IMMEDIATELY. WE CHKED TCASII TO SEE IF WE MAY HAVE INFRINGED ON ANOTHER ACFT'S AIRSPACE AND SAW NO CONFLICT ON THE TCASII SCREEN. ATC CTLR ASKED US TO CONFIRM THAT WE WERE LEVELING AT 6000 FT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 493485: ON A VECTOR OF 360 DEGS, PHL APCH GAVE US A VECTOR TO 030 DEGS AND ADVISED US TO SLOW FROM 250 KIAS TO 210 KIAS. AS THE ACFT APCHED 6000 FT AND TURN ROLLOUT, WE NOTICED THE AUTOPLT WASN'T SLOWING ITS RATE OF DSCNT FOR ALT HOLD. I ADVISED THE CAPT. HE ACKNOWLEDGED HE WAS AWARE OF IT. LESSON LEARNED: MD88 AUTOPLT MAY NOT HANDLE TURNING, SLOWING, AND LEVELOFF SIMULTANEOUSLY AS WELL AS IT SHOULD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.