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Attributes | |
ACN | 496770 |
Time | |
Date | 200101 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Learjet 23 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : nontn 3 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 496770 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flying a very old and very basic learjet 23 with very basic navigation equipment. We were cleared to cross phigg intersection at 11000 ft and 250 KIAS. We were using the DME to identify phigg (3 DME off bld). The DME was the old type where you must tune it to the frequency -- it does not tune off of #1 or #2 navigation. We had it tuned to las and missed our altitude by approximately 5000 ft. ATC brought this to our attention and I told them what happened. The distances were close enough that it wasn't obvious we had the wrong frequency. Obviously a result of not paying close attention. The GPS was so basic we weren't using it as a backup for distance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LJ23 CREW HAD WRONG DME TUNED IN AND MISSED XING RESTR.
Narrative: FLYING A VERY OLD AND VERY BASIC LEARJET 23 WITH VERY BASIC NAV EQUIP. WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS PHIGG INTXN AT 11000 FT AND 250 KIAS. WE WERE USING THE DME TO IDENT PHIGG (3 DME OFF BLD). THE DME WAS THE OLD TYPE WHERE YOU MUST TUNE IT TO THE FREQ -- IT DOES NOT TUNE OFF OF #1 OR #2 NAV. WE HAD IT TUNED TO LAS AND MISSED OUR ALT BY APPROX 5000 FT. ATC BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTN AND I TOLD THEM WHAT HAPPENED. THE DISTANCES WERE CLOSE ENOUGH THAT IT WASN'T OBVIOUS WE HAD THE WRONG FREQ. OBVIOUSLY A RESULT OF NOT PAYING CLOSE ATTN. THE GPS WAS SO BASIC WE WEREN'T USING IT AS A BACKUP FOR DISTANCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.