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Attributes | |
ACN | 496769 |
Time | |
Date | 200101 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : position and hold |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 15394 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 496769 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other other : person 4 |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | other other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Passenger Human Performance Maintenance Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft Cabin Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We departed our gate at ZZZ the first time at XA50 but, during taxi, both the first officer and myself noticed an odor best described as a hot galley with food inside. Frankly, I did not pay much mind to this as this often occurs. Very soon the first flight attendant came forward to inform us of a hot odor in the cabin. A check of the forward galley oven revealed that it was off and cool. No smoke, fumes, or obvious passenger discomfort noted at this time. I then requested the first flight attendant to query the aft flight attendants about the condition of their galleys. The next thing to occur was a series of cabin chimes indicating a smoke detector in a lavatory had activated (I purposely canceled selcall at this point as its chime is often confused with smoke detector activation). The flight attendants were able to determine that the right aft lavatory detector was the culprit and reset same. It remained quiet. Still no smoke or passenger/crew distress, so I elected to taxi back to the gate but had fire equipment follow us to the gate. Passenger were deplaned normally. Firefighters inspected the aircraft visually and with infra-red camera. No evidence of fire noted. Aircraft then turned over to our maintenance personnel. Maintenance conducted an inspection of the aircraft but no real discrepancies were found. They did, however, inspect and tighten some ducting and replaced a filter 'sock.' we next departed the gate at about XC30 and everything went normally until after takeoff at about 3000 ft MSL when the first officer and myself heard multiple cabin call chimes. In stepped the first flight attendant to inform us that there was a hot odor in the cabin and passenger were starting to panic. At no time did the cockpit crew notice any smoke/odor. My visual check of the cabin did not indicate any smoke. We were now level at 9000 ft MSL in the vicinity of XXX. I next instructed the first flight attendant to do a walk-through of the cabin and report the condition. She did so, and reported the odor still present and that passenger 'were very concerned' and 'I do not feel comfortable with this situation.' my decision was to request return to ZZZ on account of odor in the cabin. We did so uneventfully, although fire equipment met us on the taxiway and did a visual inspection of the aircraft, but everything appeared normal. I did not declare an emergency, fire equipment was requested by ATC personnel. Exterior inspection revealed no fire/smoke and we returned to the gate and deplaned. Curiously, neither the first officer nor myself noticed any odor, but several passenger made comments to me that they indeed had smelled something and stated they were happy with the decision to return. One passenger described the odor as 'burning electrical insulation and I know what that is.' another thought the odor had been present in the cabin when the aircraft departed mexico on a previous leg (different crew). Due to unavailability of another aircraft and crew duty issues, this flight was subsequently canceled. On reflection about these incidents it seems that this aircraft, the MD80, at our airline at least has more than its share of cabin smoke/fume/odor problems. I don't know if this could be maintenance or design problems. Certainly our aircraft have high utilization and the fleet is aging. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated on taxi out the first officer and myself noted a hot galley like smell but nothing abnormal as the galley is located aft of the cockpit. The reporter said the galley ovens were reported cool. The reporter stated a lavatory smoke alarm sounded in the aft lavatory and we returned to the gate. The reporter said that fire rescue checked the cabin for hot spots and found none and maintenance replaced a water bag. The reporter said after takeoff between 3000-9000 ft flight attendants again reported a hot odor in the cabin and passenger were upset. The reporter said neither the first officer nor myself smelled anything hinting of a hot odor but we never left the cockpit. The reporter said we returned to ZZZ where the airplane was taken OTS. The reporter said the cause of the hot odor, if found, was never reported by maintenance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD80 RETURNED TO THE GATE TWICE FOR RPTS OF A HOT ODOR. THE FIRST WAS CHKED BY MAINT AND FIRE RESCUE, NOTHING FOUND. THE SECOND OCCURRED IN AIR AND ON THE RETURN AGAIN NOTHING WAS DISCOVERED.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED OUR GATE AT ZZZ THE FIRST TIME AT XA50 BUT, DURING TAXI, BOTH THE FO AND MYSELF NOTICED AN ODOR BEST DESCRIBED AS A HOT GALLEY WITH FOOD INSIDE. FRANKLY, I DID NOT PAY MUCH MIND TO THIS AS THIS OFTEN OCCURS. VERY SOON THE FIRST FLT ATTENDANT CAME FORWARD TO INFORM US OF A HOT ODOR IN THE CABIN. A CHK OF THE FORWARD GALLEY OVEN REVEALED THAT IT WAS OFF AND COOL. NO SMOKE, FUMES, OR OBVIOUS PAX DISCOMFORT NOTED AT THIS TIME. I THEN REQUESTED THE FIRST FLT ATTENDANT TO QUERY THE AFT FLT ATTENDANTS ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THEIR GALLEYS. THE NEXT THING TO OCCUR WAS A SERIES OF CABIN CHIMES INDICATING A SMOKE DETECTOR IN A LAVATORY HAD ACTIVATED (I PURPOSELY CANCELED SELCALL AT THIS POINT AS ITS CHIME IS OFTEN CONFUSED WITH SMOKE DETECTOR ACTIVATION). THE FLT ATTENDANTS WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT THE R AFT LAVATORY DETECTOR WAS THE CULPRIT AND RESET SAME. IT REMAINED QUIET. STILL NO SMOKE OR PAX/CREW DISTRESS, SO I ELECTED TO TAXI BACK TO THE GATE BUT HAD FIRE EQUIP FOLLOW US TO THE GATE. PAX WERE DEPLANED NORMALLY. FIREFIGHTERS INSPECTED THE ACFT VISUALLY AND WITH INFRA-RED CAMERA. NO EVIDENCE OF FIRE NOTED. ACFT THEN TURNED OVER TO OUR MAINT PERSONNEL. MAINT CONDUCTED AN INSPECTION OF THE ACFT BUT NO REAL DISCREPANCIES WERE FOUND. THEY DID, HOWEVER, INSPECT AND TIGHTEN SOME DUCTING AND REPLACED A FILTER 'SOCK.' WE NEXT DEPARTED THE GATE AT ABOUT XC30 AND EVERYTHING WENT NORMALLY UNTIL AFTER TKOF AT ABOUT 3000 FT MSL WHEN THE FO AND MYSELF HEARD MULTIPLE CABIN CALL CHIMES. IN STEPPED THE FIRST FLT ATTENDANT TO INFORM US THAT THERE WAS A HOT ODOR IN THE CABIN AND PAX WERE STARTING TO PANIC. AT NO TIME DID THE COCKPIT CREW NOTICE ANY SMOKE/ODOR. MY VISUAL CHK OF THE CABIN DID NOT INDICATE ANY SMOKE. WE WERE NOW LEVEL AT 9000 FT MSL IN THE VICINITY OF XXX. I NEXT INSTRUCTED THE FIRST FLT ATTENDANT TO DO A WALK-THROUGH OF THE CABIN AND RPT THE CONDITION. SHE DID SO, AND RPTED THE ODOR STILL PRESENT AND THAT PAX 'WERE VERY CONCERNED' AND 'I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS SIT.' MY DECISION WAS TO REQUEST RETURN TO ZZZ ON ACCOUNT OF ODOR IN THE CABIN. WE DID SO UNEVENTFULLY, ALTHOUGH FIRE EQUIP MET US ON THE TXWY AND DID A VISUAL INSPECTION OF THE ACFT, BUT EVERYTHING APPEARED NORMAL. I DID NOT DECLARE AN EMER, FIRE EQUIP WAS REQUESTED BY ATC PERSONNEL. EXTERIOR INSPECTION REVEALED NO FIRE/SMOKE AND WE RETURNED TO THE GATE AND DEPLANED. CURIOUSLY, NEITHER THE FO NOR MYSELF NOTICED ANY ODOR, BUT SEVERAL PAX MADE COMMENTS TO ME THAT THEY INDEED HAD SMELLED SOMETHING AND STATED THEY WERE HAPPY WITH THE DECISION TO RETURN. ONE PAX DESCRIBED THE ODOR AS 'BURNING ELECTRICAL INSULATION AND I KNOW WHAT THAT IS.' ANOTHER THOUGHT THE ODOR HAD BEEN PRESENT IN THE CABIN WHEN THE ACFT DEPARTED MEXICO ON A PREVIOUS LEG (DIFFERENT CREW). DUE TO UNAVAILABILITY OF ANOTHER ACFT AND CREW DUTY ISSUES, THIS FLT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELED. ON REFLECTION ABOUT THESE INCIDENTS IT SEEMS THAT THIS ACFT, THE MD80, AT OUR AIRLINE AT LEAST HAS MORE THAN ITS SHARE OF CABIN SMOKE/FUME/ODOR PROBS. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS COULD BE MAINT OR DESIGN PROBS. CERTAINLY OUR ACFT HAVE HIGH UTILIZATION AND THE FLEET IS AGING. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED ON TAXI OUT THE FO AND MYSELF NOTED A HOT GALLEY LIKE SMELL BUT NOTHING ABNORMAL AS THE GALLEY IS LOCATED AFT OF THE COCKPIT. THE RPTR SAID THE GALLEY OVENS WERE RPTED COOL. THE RPTR STATED A LAVATORY SMOKE ALARM SOUNDED IN THE AFT LAVATORY AND WE RETURNED TO THE GATE. THE RPTR SAID THAT FIRE RESCUE CHKED THE CABIN FOR HOT SPOTS AND FOUND NONE AND MAINT REPLACED A WATER BAG. THE RPTR SAID AFTER TKOF BTWN 3000-9000 FT FLT ATTENDANTS AGAIN RPTED A HOT ODOR IN THE CABIN AND PAX WERE UPSET. THE RPTR SAID NEITHER THE FO NOR MYSELF SMELLED ANYTHING HINTING OF A HOT ODOR BUT WE NEVER LEFT THE COCKPIT. THE RPTR SAID WE RETURNED TO ZZZ WHERE THE AIRPLANE WAS TAKEN OTS. THE RPTR SAID THE CAUSE OF THE HOT ODOR, IF FOUND, WAS NEVER RPTED BY MAINT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.