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Attributes | |
ACN | 497050 |
Time | |
Date | 200101 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mia.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 650 |
ASRS Report | 497050 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
On taxi out, I prompted ACARS for the final weights. The weights went directly to the ACARS printer. The passenger count was exactly the same as the one given to me by the flight attendant. I entered the zero fuel weight in the CDU, which was 2000 pounds lighter than our original weights. We were already well below our takeoff gross weight limit. We took off and shortly thereafter received an ACARS from station operations saying we had not, in fact, received our final weights. The final weights were sent to us a few mins later. We were actually 2900 pounds lighter. We were well within all center of gravity and weight limits. It worked to our advantage this time, but this situation could potentially cause an overweight takeoff. This situation can be avoided by not allowing any weights to be obtained via ACARS during taxi until the weights are finalized by load planning.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B767-300 CREW USED THE 'PLANNED WT MANIFEST' PRINTOUT ON ACARS FOR DEP AT MIA.
Narrative: ON TAXI OUT, I PROMPTED ACARS FOR THE FINAL WTS. THE WTS WENT DIRECTLY TO THE ACARS PRINTER. THE PAX COUNT WAS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE ONE GIVEN TO ME BY THE FLT ATTENDANT. I ENTERED THE ZERO FUEL WT IN THE CDU, WHICH WAS 2000 LBS LIGHTER THAN OUR ORIGINAL WTS. WE WERE ALREADY WELL BELOW OUR TKOF GROSS WT LIMIT. WE TOOK OFF AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER RECEIVED AN ACARS FROM STATION OPS SAYING WE HAD NOT, IN FACT, RECEIVED OUR FINAL WTS. THE FINAL WTS WERE SENT TO US A FEW MINS LATER. WE WERE ACTUALLY 2900 LBS LIGHTER. WE WERE WELL WITHIN ALL CTR OF GRAVITY AND WT LIMITS. IT WORKED TO OUR ADVANTAGE THIS TIME, BUT THIS SIT COULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE AN OVERWT TKOF. THIS SIT CAN BE AVOIDED BY NOT ALLOWING ANY WTS TO BE OBTAINED VIA ACARS DURING TAXI UNTIL THE WTS ARE FINALIZED BY LOAD PLANNING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.