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Attributes | |
ACN | 497439 |
Time | |
Date | 200101 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mynn.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mynn.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR 72 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 497439 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 497440 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Initial climb clearance to 14000 ft MSL was given by first departure controller while climbing through 12500 ft to 14000 ft. The second departure controller told us that we were given 12000 ft as an initial altitude. We descended to 12000 ft and stayed there until leaving NAS airspace. Many times at nassau local controller pronunciations are difficult to understand at best, and mistakes often occur due to this. My crew put it into the altitude alerter (14000 ft) and I confirmed this initially. My guess is that NAS departure thought they said 12000 ft when in fact they said 14000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AT72 CREW HAD ALT OVERSHOOT IN MYNA CLASS E AIRSPACE.
Narrative: INITIAL CLB CLRNC TO 14000 FT MSL WAS GIVEN BY FIRST DEP CTLR WHILE CLBING THROUGH 12500 FT TO 14000 FT. THE SECOND DEP CTLR TOLD US THAT WE WERE GIVEN 12000 FT AS AN INITIAL ALT. WE DSNDED TO 12000 FT AND STAYED THERE UNTIL LEAVING NAS AIRSPACE. MANY TIMES AT NASSAU LCL CTLR PRONUNCIATIONS ARE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND AT BEST, AND MISTAKES OFTEN OCCUR DUE TO THIS. MY CREW PUT IT INTO THE ALT ALERTER (14000 FT) AND I CONFIRMED THIS INITIALLY. MY GUESS IS THAT NAS DEP THOUGHT THEY SAID 12000 FT WHEN IN FACT THEY SAID 14000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.