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Attributes | |
ACN | 497708 |
Time | |
Date | 200101 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl.airport |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : stl.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : stl.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 497708 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 497222 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Company flight XXX was cleared for a visual approach to runway 30L at stl. Upon initial contact with the local tower controller, we were instructed to 'continue' and the flight was continued using normal visual approach procedures and callouts. At approximately 800 ft AGL, we were given clearance to land. At approximately 400-500 ft AGL, the flight crew noticed that an aircraft was still on the runway beginning their takeoff roll. No mention of the aircraft was given to us by ATC, at any time. Flight conditions were clear at night, but the aircraft was not clearly visible against the dark runway. At approximately 300 ft AGL, it was obvious that the aircraft was airborne and that the runway was clear. Flight XXX then landed on runway 30L without incident. It is my opinion that once an aircraft has been cleared to land while on the approach, the tower should notify that aircraft if another aircraft is going to depart that runway prior to landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC9 CREW ON SHORT FINAL, PERCEIVE AN ACFT TO STILL BE ON TKOF ROLL.
Narrative: COMPANY FLT XXX WAS CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 30L AT STL. UPON INITIAL CONTACT WITH THE LCL TWR CTLR, WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO 'CONTINUE' AND THE FLT WAS CONTINUED USING NORMAL VISUAL APCH PROCS AND CALLOUTS. AT APPROX 800 FT AGL, WE WERE GIVEN CLRNC TO LAND. AT APPROX 400-500 FT AGL, THE FLC NOTICED THAT AN ACFT WAS STILL ON THE RWY BEGINNING THEIR TKOF ROLL. NO MENTION OF THE ACFT WAS GIVEN TO US BY ATC, AT ANY TIME. FLT CONDITIONS WERE CLR AT NIGHT, BUT THE ACFT WAS NOT CLRLY VISIBLE AGAINST THE DARK RWY. AT APPROX 300 FT AGL, IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT THE ACFT WAS AIRBORNE AND THAT THE RWY WAS CLR. FLT XXX THEN LANDED ON RWY 30L WITHOUT INCIDENT. IT IS MY OPINION THAT ONCE AN ACFT HAS BEEN CLRED TO LAND WHILE ON THE APCH, THE TWR SHOULD NOTIFY THAT ACFT IF ANOTHER ACFT IS GOING TO DEPART THAT RWY PRIOR TO LNDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.