37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 497880 |
Time | |
Date | 200101 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp.airport |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : m98.tracon |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 12l other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 497880 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : overrode automation |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Being vectored to final approach, runway 12L msp at 4000 ft. Received a final vector to intercept runway 12L localizer and maintain 4000 ft until established, then cleared for the ILS runway 12L msp. Captain engaged the ILS guidance portion of the ILS by arming the approach with the approach button. The engines immediately spooled up and climbed to 5000 ft before he could turn off the autoplt and manually maneuver back to 4000 ft. We advised ATC that the aircraft had momentarily climbed to 5000 ft. Approach controller said 'no problem.' we debriefed afterwards and concluded that the FGS was trying to capture the GS from below by flying up to it to intercept. We are further investigating to find out why it did this. This is not normal. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter indicated that this is a known problem with the software, and that his company has issued a bulletin to correct with a new procedure. The procedure recommends that the approach not be armed until inside 18 mi from the runway. His company is working with the manufacturer, in the meantime, to see if the software can be corrected.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN AIRBUS A319 INTERCEPTING THE GS FROM BELOW L ASSIGNED ALT CLBING 1000 FT WHEN AUTOFLT WAS ARMED FOR THE APCH.
Narrative: BEING VECTORED TO FINAL APCH, RWY 12L MSP AT 4000 FT. RECEIVED A FINAL VECTOR TO INTERCEPT RWY 12L LOC AND MAINTAIN 4000 FT UNTIL ESTABLISHED, THEN CLRED FOR THE ILS RWY 12L MSP. CAPT ENGAGED THE ILS GUIDANCE PORTION OF THE ILS BY ARMING THE APCH WITH THE APCH BUTTON. THE ENGS IMMEDIATELY SPOOLED UP AND CLBED TO 5000 FT BEFORE HE COULD TURN OFF THE AUTOPLT AND MANUALLY MANEUVER BACK TO 4000 FT. WE ADVISED ATC THAT THE ACFT HAD MOMENTARILY CLBED TO 5000 FT. APCH CTLR SAID 'NO PROB.' WE DEBRIEFED AFTERWARDS AND CONCLUDED THAT THE FGS WAS TRYING TO CAPTURE THE GS FROM BELOW BY FLYING UP TO IT TO INTERCEPT. WE ARE FURTHER INVESTIGATING TO FIND OUT WHY IT DID THIS. THIS IS NOT NORMAL. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR INDICATED THAT THIS IS A KNOWN PROB WITH THE SOFTWARE, AND THAT HIS COMPANY HAS ISSUED A BULLETIN TO CORRECT WITH A NEW PROC. THE PROC RECOMMENDS THAT THE APCH NOT BE ARMED UNTIL INSIDE 18 MI FROM THE RWY. HIS COMPANY IS WORKING WITH THE MANUFACTURER, IN THE MEANTIME, TO SEE IF THE SOFTWARE CAN BE CORRECTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.