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Attributes | |
ACN | 498440 |
Time | |
Date | 200101 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : awm.airport |
State Reference | AR |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Baron 55/Cochise |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | departure : vfr |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 1800 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 498440 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was receiving dual recurrency training with an ATP cfii and had just completed a practice ILS at awm. In departing the area in IFR to do air work, I realized we had inadvertently entered overflying class B airspace when we exceeded 3000 ft MSL. I thought we were in an area permitting 5000 ft MSL. We were close, but not there yet. I don't think ATC will contact us, but nevertheless it was a lesson learned. Technically, any enforcement action would probably be against the instructor, but I still feel responsible.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TRAINING FLT CLBS INTO CLASS B AIRSPACE AFTER A PRACTICE ILS APCH AT AN UNCTLED ARPT UNDERLYING CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: I WAS RECEIVING DUAL RECURRENCY TRAINING WITH AN ATP CFII AND HAD JUST COMPLETED A PRACTICE ILS AT AWM. IN DEPARTING THE AREA IN IFR TO DO AIR WORK, I REALIZED WE HAD INADVERTENTLY ENTERED OVERFLYING CLASS B AIRSPACE WHEN WE EXCEEDED 3000 FT MSL. I THOUGHT WE WERE IN AN AREA PERMITTING 5000 FT MSL. WE WERE CLOSE, BUT NOT THERE YET. I DON'T THINK ATC WILL CONTACT US, BUT NEVERTHELESS IT WAS A LESSON LEARNED. TECHNICALLY, ANY ENFORCEMENT ACTION WOULD PROBABLY BE AGAINST THE INSTRUCTOR, BUT I STILL FEEL RESPONSIBLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.