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Attributes | |
ACN | 502370 |
Time | |
Date | 200102 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : trm.vortac |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 15000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-500 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 180 |
ASRS Report | 502370 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude cabin event : passenger misconduct non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to assigned altitude none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather Cabin Crew Human Performance Passenger Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
En route lax-psp at 17000 ft IMC, just advised of probable holding over trm VOR. We were given clearance to descend to 15000 ft. Captain was PF, and failed to command autoplt to descend until after ATC queried us about 2 mins later. There was no conflict with other aircraft that we know of. Contributing factors included an irate passenger in coach that caused the flight attendants to continue calling the cockpit. This was our 4TH leg of the day (out of 6 total) and we had been solid IMC all day with many unusual clrncs/rertes due to lax landing east instead of west, my lack of experience in a glass cockpit, work overload for a 2-MAN crew! The obvious solution to this problem (other than returning to a 3-MAN cockpit crew set-up) is to always remember to aviate first -- everything else is secondary.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-500 CREW HAD ALTDEV IN ZLA CLASS E AIRSPACE.
Narrative: ENRTE LAX-PSP AT 17000 FT IMC, JUST ADVISED OF PROBABLE HOLDING OVER TRM VOR. WE WERE GIVEN CLRNC TO DSND TO 15000 FT. CAPT WAS PF, AND FAILED TO COMMAND AUTOPLT TO DSND UNTIL AFTER ATC QUERIED US ABOUT 2 MINS LATER. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT WITH OTHER ACFT THAT WE KNOW OF. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS INCLUDED AN IRATE PAX IN COACH THAT CAUSED THE FLT ATTENDANTS TO CONTINUE CALLING THE COCKPIT. THIS WAS OUR 4TH LEG OF THE DAY (OUT OF 6 TOTAL) AND WE HAD BEEN SOLID IMC ALL DAY WITH MANY UNUSUAL CLRNCS/RERTES DUE TO LAX LNDG E INSTEAD OF W, MY LACK OF EXPERIENCE IN A GLASS COCKPIT, WORK OVERLOAD FOR A 2-MAN CREW! THE OBVIOUS SOLUTION TO THIS PROB (OTHER THAN RETURNING TO A 3-MAN COCKPIT CREW SET-UP) IS TO ALWAYS REMEMBER TO AVIATE FIRST -- EVERYTHING ELSE IS SECONDARY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.