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Attributes | |
ACN | 503770 |
Time | |
Date | 200103 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : sayge |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl single value : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc tower : vrb.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : sayge 3 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3700 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 503770 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert none taken : insufficient time |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft Company |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Center advised us that our planned arrival (lander 3) into denver was changed to the sayge 3 and to cross sayge at 14000 ft. The FMS was programmed for the new arrival including the crossing restr, and the autoplt was configured properly for the VNAV to cross sayge at 14000 ft. I was in the process of obtaining ATIS at den when ATC asked if we could make the crossing altitude. It was at that time that I noticed the aircraft had proceeded beyond the top of descent point without starting down. I advised ATC we were descending at this time. We reached 14000 ft, 3 mi past sayge. It was the crew's error to identify the aircraft had past the top of descent point.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MDT CREW DID NOT COMPLY WITH A STAR XING RESTR ON THE SAYGE 3 ARR INTO DEN.
Narrative: CTR ADVISED US THAT OUR PLANNED ARR (LANDER 3) INTO DENVER WAS CHANGED TO THE SAYGE 3 AND TO CROSS SAYGE AT 14000 FT. THE FMS WAS PROGRAMMED FOR THE NEW ARR INCLUDING THE XING RESTR, AND THE AUTOPLT WAS CONFIGURED PROPERLY FOR THE VNAV TO CROSS SAYGE AT 14000 FT. I WAS IN THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING ATIS AT DEN WHEN ATC ASKED IF WE COULD MAKE THE XING ALT. IT WAS AT THAT TIME THAT I NOTICED THE ACFT HAD PROCEEDED BEYOND THE TOP OF DSCNT POINT WITHOUT STARTING DOWN. I ADVISED ATC WE WERE DSNDING AT THIS TIME. WE REACHED 14000 FT, 3 MI PAST SAYGE. IT WAS THE CREW'S ERROR TO IDENT THE ACFT HAD PAST THE TOP OF DSCNT POINT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.