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Attributes | |
ACN | 504150 |
Time | |
Date | 200103 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 504150 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : scheduler #4 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
I started a 4 day trip. On the first day, I arrived at the layover station (san) late. The original layover was scheduled for 10+ hours. However, due to delays, I was reduced to a 9 hour 25 min layover. The next day I reported for duty at XB48. I flew to las, then to jfk, and was released at XD30. Block time for the first day was 5 hours and duty time was 9 hours 23 mins. Block time on day #2 was 6 hours 6 mins and duty time was 10 hours 42 mins. After leaving the aircraft at jfk, I called the crew scheduling to determine how much compensatory rest was required. The scheduler on duty informed me that only 11 hours of rest was required. I informed him that previous conversations with scheduling that afternoon indicated that 12 hours was required. This evening, scheduler was adamant that only 11 hours was required and that I should report to duty at XB30 the next day. I, therefore, reported for duty at XB30. I flew the scheduled flight to las. After landing, I was told to call scheduling. I called scheduling and was told that I needed 12 hours of rest the night before and that I was being replaced for the remainder of the trip. Scheduling also informed me that they knee of the error prior to our flight leaving jfk. But they were unable to get jfk operations in order to stop the flight, not was any attempt made to SELCAL the flight prior to departure on the company radio, nor was any attempt made to have jfk ATC request us to call the company prior to departure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR CREW FLIES WITHOUT A LEGAL REST PERIOD EVEN AFTER COORDINATING WITH COMPANY CREW SCHEDULING.
Narrative: I STARTED A 4 DAY TRIP. ON THE FIRST DAY, I ARRIVED AT THE LAYOVER STATION (SAN) LATE. THE ORIGINAL LAYOVER WAS SCHEDULED FOR 10+ HRS. HOWEVER, DUE TO DELAYS, I WAS REDUCED TO A 9 HR 25 MIN LAYOVER. THE NEXT DAY I RPTED FOR DUTY AT XB48. I FLEW TO LAS, THEN TO JFK, AND WAS RELEASED AT XD30. BLOCK TIME FOR THE FIRST DAY WAS 5 HRS AND DUTY TIME WAS 9 HRS 23 MINS. BLOCK TIME ON DAY #2 WAS 6 HRS 6 MINS AND DUTY TIME WAS 10 HRS 42 MINS. AFTER LEAVING THE ACFT AT JFK, I CALLED THE CREW SCHEDULING TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH COMPENSATORY REST WAS REQUIRED. THE SCHEDULER ON DUTY INFORMED ME THAT ONLY 11 HRS OF REST WAS REQUIRED. I INFORMED HIM THAT PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH SCHEDULING THAT AFTERNOON INDICATED THAT 12 HRS WAS REQUIRED. THIS EVENING, SCHEDULER WAS ADAMANT THAT ONLY 11 HRS WAS REQUIRED AND THAT I SHOULD RPT TO DUTY AT XB30 THE NEXT DAY. I, THEREFORE, RPTED FOR DUTY AT XB30. I FLEW THE SCHEDULED FLT TO LAS. AFTER LNDG, I WAS TOLD TO CALL SCHEDULING. I CALLED SCHEDULING AND WAS TOLD THAT I NEEDED 12 HRS OF REST THE NIGHT BEFORE AND THAT I WAS BEING REPLACED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE TRIP. SCHEDULING ALSO INFORMED ME THAT THEY KNEE OF THE ERROR PRIOR TO OUR FLT LEAVING JFK. BUT THEY WERE UNABLE TO GET JFK OPS IN ORDER TO STOP THE FLT, NOT WAS ANY ATTEMPT MADE TO SELCAL THE FLT PRIOR TO DEP ON THE COMPANY RADIO, NOR WAS ANY ATTEMPT MADE TO HAVE JFK ATC REQUEST US TO CALL THE COMPANY PRIOR TO DEP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.