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Attributes | |
ACN | 504881 |
Time | |
Date | 200103 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
State Reference | NH |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 1300 flight time type : 25 |
ASRS Report | 504881 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | other Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
A skyhawk with 2 adults on board departed runway 33 at rochester, nh (skyhaven - daw) stating that it would make a r-hand turnout. Knowing that my skylane rg with half tanks would overtake him quickly, I waited until he was well into his climb and away from the north end of the runway. I climbed at 1500 FPM keeping the skyhawk on my left side and in full view. When he began his right turn to the northeast, so did I, keeping him in full view and increasing our vertical separation. When I passed the skyhawk, I was approximately 300 ft higher climbing at 1500 FPM and approximately 150 ft northeast of it. Several mins after I had passed over the skyhawk's path the pilot called skyhaven unicom inquiring of n-number and stating that he was 'going to report a near miss.' I heard this request and told the pilot that I had him in sight the entire time and didn't think that this constituted a near miss because I kept plenty of separation between us. He informed me that he 'could see the rivets on my tail' and that he 'had to stop his climb because of me.' I strongly disagree and think this pilot was overreacting. It was a beautiful day and there were a number of planes in the pattern. I think that he was surprised to see me and I probably should have broadcasted my intentions to pass over his direction of flight, so that he would not be overtaken unawares.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 REACTS TO C182 OVERTAKE ON DEP FROM DAW ARPT.
Narrative: A SKYHAWK WITH 2 ADULTS ON BOARD DEPARTED RWY 33 AT ROCHESTER, NH (SKYHAVEN - DAW) STATING THAT IT WOULD MAKE A R-HAND TURNOUT. KNOWING THAT MY SKYLANE RG WITH HALF TANKS WOULD OVERTAKE HIM QUICKLY, I WAITED UNTIL HE WAS WELL INTO HIS CLB AND AWAY FROM THE N END OF THE RWY. I CLBED AT 1500 FPM KEEPING THE SKYHAWK ON MY L SIDE AND IN FULL VIEW. WHEN HE BEGAN HIS R TURN TO THE NE, SO DID I, KEEPING HIM IN FULL VIEW AND INCREASING OUR VERT SEPARATION. WHEN I PASSED THE SKYHAWK, I WAS APPROX 300 FT HIGHER CLBING AT 1500 FPM AND APPROX 150 FT NE OF IT. SEVERAL MINS AFTER I HAD PASSED OVER THE SKYHAWK'S PATH THE PLT CALLED SKYHAVEN UNICOM INQUIRING OF N-NUMBER AND STATING THAT HE WAS 'GOING TO RPT A NEAR MISS.' I HEARD THIS REQUEST AND TOLD THE PLT THAT I HAD HIM IN SIGHT THE ENTIRE TIME AND DIDN'T THINK THAT THIS CONSTITUTED A NEAR MISS BECAUSE I KEPT PLENTY OF SEPARATION BTWN US. HE INFORMED ME THAT HE 'COULD SEE THE RIVETS ON MY TAIL' AND THAT HE 'HAD TO STOP HIS CLB BECAUSE OF ME.' I STRONGLY DISAGREE AND THINK THIS PLT WAS OVERREACTING. IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PLANES IN THE PATTERN. I THINK THAT HE WAS SURPRISED TO SEE ME AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BROADCASTED MY INTENTIONS TO PASS OVER HIS DIRECTION OF FLT, SO THAT HE WOULD NOT BE OVERTAKEN UNAWARES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.