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A B757 flight crew is uncertain as to whether they had received clearance to cross runway 35C along with 2 other aircraft at dfw, tx.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 504980 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200103 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| ASRS Report | 504980 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 504979 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were held short of runway 35C on taxiway Z behind 2 aircraft when tower issued numerous clrncs to cross. We followed aircraft across runway. Radios were busy with clrncs and readbacks. We were unsure of whether we were part of the clrncs and realized we were already on the runway. We continued to cross and held short of runway 35L. It was day VFR and runway was clear. Tower did not mention any problems with our taxi and we were cleared across runway 35L and handed off to ground for further taxi. We did not receive any indications from controllers that an incursion took place. Supplemental information from acn 504979: tower said nothing to us, but it is possible that we crossed without clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757 FLC IS UNCERTAIN AS TO WHETHER THEY HAD RECEIVED CLRNC TO CROSS RWY 35C ALONG WITH 2 OTHER ACFT AT DFW, TX.
Narrative: WE WERE HELD SHORT OF RWY 35C ON TXWY Z BEHIND 2 ACFT WHEN TWR ISSUED NUMEROUS CLRNCS TO CROSS. WE FOLLOWED ACFT ACROSS RWY. RADIOS WERE BUSY WITH CLRNCS AND READBACKS. WE WERE UNSURE OF WHETHER WE WERE PART OF THE CLRNCS AND REALIZED WE WERE ALREADY ON THE RWY. WE CONTINUED TO CROSS AND HELD SHORT OF RWY 35L. IT WAS DAY VFR AND RWY WAS CLR. TWR DID NOT MENTION ANY PROBS WITH OUR TAXI AND WE WERE CLRED ACROSS RWY 35L AND HANDED OFF TO GND FOR FURTHER TAXI. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY INDICATIONS FROM CTLRS THAT AN INCURSION TOOK PLACE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 504979: TWR SAID NOTHING TO US, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE CROSSED WITHOUT CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.